NHS Scotland links to Eunuch Archive

[Hagiography]

The Lead Clinician of the National Gender Identity Clinical Network for Scotland just gave evidence to the Scottish Govt committee on Gender Reform this morning.

The NGICNS links to WPATH documents for information.

www.ngicns.scot.nhs.uk/information/wpath/

One of these is documents is titled 'Eunuch'. This is a pdf that includes a link to the 'Eunuch' Archives, which WPATH describes as the source of the 'greatest wealth of information' on eunuch identified people.

The Eunuch Archives have been investigated by reporters from Reduxx. Reduxx seems to be down at the moment, but their article is archived here:

web.archive.org/web/20220606014846/reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborated-with-castration-child-abuse-fetishists/

Content warning: references to CSA

Did a twitter search. Couple of things popped up.

Front page of Telegraph:

mobile.twitter.com/TimBarnsley1/status/1537191907566276614

Link here to archive of story:

mobile.twitter.com/mlindsay122015/status/1537304335205515264

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ta for the archive.

We need questions to be asked about WPATH, and why this organisation, with clear links to sites promoting CSA (the Eunuch Archives), is informing the NHS.

Women on here have been asking questions about it for a long time.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3414279-Can-we-talk-about-WPATH

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3987338-What-is-WPATH

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4049656-wpath-and-the-tavi

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4367712-New-WPATH-Guidelines-SOC8

Its the fetishism again, creeping quietly in under the rainbow banners, and I think we are going to see the even darker side pop up very soon 😡

😡😤 What an embarrassment.

It will be interesting to learn if there are conversations behind the scenes about the complete lack of due diligence and, further, if anyone has less confidence in some of the selected experts from whom they've chosen to hear.

Oh, coincidentally.

WPATH recommends age to start treating 'trans kids' is lowered to 14.

apnews.com/article/gender-transition-treatment-guidelines-9dbe54f670a3a0f5f2831c2bf14f9bbb

'A leading transgender health association has lowered its recommended minimum age for starting gender transition treatment, including sex hormones and surgeries.

The World Professional Association for Transgender Health said hormones could be started at age 14, two years earlier than the group’s previous advice, and some surgeries done at age 15 or 17, a year or so earlier than previous guidance. The group acknowledged potential risks but said it is unethical and harmful to withhold early treatment.'

'The update also recommends:

—Sex hormones — estrogen or testosterone — starting at age 14. This is often lifelong treatment. Long-term risks may include infertility and weight gain, along with strokes in trans women and high blood pressure in trans men, the guidelines say.

—Breast removal for trans boys at age 15. Previous guidance suggested this could be done at least a year after hormones, around age 17, although a specific minimum ag wasn’t listed.

—Most genital surgeries starting at age 17, including womb and testicle removal, a year earlier than previous guidance.'

There is a long-read article in the NYT about the WPATH guidance. Well worth a read.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4570227-emily-bazelon-nyt-article

archive.ph/cvRw4

By Genevieve Gluck today

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/top-trans-medical-association-collaborated

(About this whole thread.)

Are they just motivated by hatred? Hatred of other people for maybe having youth and the prospect of a fulfilling life? Hatred of themselves , so wanting other people to be as miserable as them? It seems the only explanation I can find.

I've tried to stick purely to factual evidence in this thread, in order that information is not lost.

Readers will no doubt draw their own conclusions.

Within the protected fiction archives, there were over 3,000 stories involving minors, including the explicit sexual abuse of children, and ‘minor’ was a specially-curated tag that users could select to easily access stories specifically featuring children.The fictional pornography includes themes such as Nazi doctors castrating children, baby boys being fed milk with estrogen in order to be violently sex trafficked as adolescents, and pedophilic fantasies of children who have been castrated to halt their puberty, ‘freezing’ them in a childlike state.
And NHS Scotland linked to it. What the everburning hellfire were they thinking?

SNP ministers have apologised after a document published by the NHS said “eunuch” should be recognised as a formal gender identity.

The paper shared claims from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) stating “eunuch-identified people” are the “least visible” group among those seeking “gender affirming medical care”.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/85a579b4-ed89-11ec-8821-d2e916a7eab3?shareToken=27df3275d14f59b2ca14c327b8d27991

"The controversy follows the emergence of the nullo cult, whose members believe in “gender nullification”. Seven men between the ages of 30 and 60, were arrested in north London in February under suspicion of carrying out illegal castrationss_ and streaming the operations online.

They are said to have carried out amputations in a basement flat in Finsbury Park and filmed the procedures for a pay-per-view channel promoted on Twitter.
The group’s leader, who was arrested on suspicion of grievous bodily harm, was said to call himself the Eunuch Maker."

You effing what?

Mail:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10922531/Eunuch-recognised-gender-according-Scottish-NHS-removed-document.html

at what point are these institutions going to realise what sort of people are knocking at their doors to be 'trans experts'?

because if that isn't when those people give them a paper to upload to their website that contains a hyperlink to a site containing fantasies of child sexual abuse, when is it going to be?

at what point are these institutions going to realise what sort of people are knocking at their doors to be 'trans experts'?

We've had hints of concern in the past, eg in this piece from the Times in 2019: It feels like conversion therapy for gay children, say clinicians

Quoting one of five clinicians who "resigned from the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) in the past three years as a matter of conscience":

One case has haunted her. “All the pushing was coming from the father to put the kid on puberty blockers. Thinking back on it now, I fear that the father was a paedophile and the child was being abused.” There is no suggestion the service knowingly ignored the case, and the outcome is unknown.

I mean, what in the following says "totally suitable as an advisor on healthcare policy"? I would have said there were more red flags than at a meeting of the Communist Party.

The stories primarily focus on the eroticization of child castration. In some, little boys request the procedures themselves and express gratitude to the adults who perform the operations. In others, children may be forcibly castrated under extreme duress. Some narratives contain violent sexualized depictions of children with stunted puberty being raped by doctors, written in sickening detail.

In plain sight.. 😡

Quote: In response to WPATH’s newly-released draft Standards of Care in December last year, <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220606014846/drive.google.com/file/d/1yPDanCu0yxRTxGpqJEA7F6z2j_aioaoL/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">one site member professed to being “absolutely delighted,” and said he would “gladly throw millions under the bus” in order to secure “a future where doctors must obey and have no right to demand reasons or withhold surgery and medication.”

And wants to campaign for 'a world were doctors must obey and have no right to demand reasons or withhold surgery or medication'.

This sounds like one person with a vivid imagination. But it also correlates closely with 'Action for Trans Health' manifesto:

'We will have universally accessible and freely available hormones & blockers, surgical procedures, and any other relevant treatments and therapies. We will end the medical gatekeeping of our bodies.
...
There will be no clinics, and no authorities. We will conduct our own research, and experiment with our own bodies.
...
We demand hormones & blockers are made available over-the-counter and by free prescription upon request
...
We demand the freedom to alter our bodies without justification. We demand an end to all surgical prerequisites - nobody should have to prove life experience,health or have to be taking hormones in order to exercise bodily autonomy. We demand that these surgeries can be highly customised to meet our individual & unique needs. We demand the right to multiple surgeries, including reversal of previous surgeries if desired, so that we do not have to fear regret. We demand the free & timely provision of genital surgeries, additive & reductive chest surgeries, hysterectomies and orchiectomies, tracheal & vocal surgeries, facial surgeries, lipoplasty, contouring & microdermabrasion, surgical hair removal & transplantation, and any other possible procedure to meet our needs as we express them.'

edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto

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