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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGB Alliance monkeypox tweets deleted

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pezdis · 30/05/2022 21:44

The LGB Alliance tweets from yesterday about gay men and monkeypox have been deleted by twitter for either homophobia or misinformation.

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Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 16:12

Aw, bless. You found a source!

Yes.... this is the poster that posted a link to an article about the increase of LGBT characters as an authority on increase in LGB population.

It was also interesting to note that article also noted the subsequent decrease in the characters that represented other protected characteristics. Maybe the hiring of actors with disabilities is no longer as important ...

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 16:15

Still waiting for all sources detailing the increase in LGB people to be very clear about what they are measuring.

Because if you are now measuring those who declare they are lesbian or gay because they are now 'same gender' oriented, then... that would be a statistical error and giving false data.

But I am really sure that both wait and hearache already have worked this out.

ScholesPanda · 31/05/2022 18:00

I have a question- genuine question- about this, since you say you understand a lot about it.
Since the decision reached in 2013 allowed for religions to choose whether to undertake gay marriages, and therefore didn't interfere in the sacraments of individual religions - and since then some churches have started undertaking gay weddings but others haven't been made to do so- why would the same objection still be valid in 2019?
Do some religions/ denominations feel a sense of ownership over civil marriage too?
I know this has nothing to do with Monkeypox but as this thread is long since derailed I'm going to ask anyway.

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:02

To sum up

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:03

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:02

To sum up

Not sure how anyone could disagree with this cartoon. Jackie Doyle Price is one of the organisation's most prominent MP supporters and she is both straight and conservative....

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 18:11

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:03

Not sure how anyone could disagree with this cartoon. Jackie Doyle Price is one of the organisation's most prominent MP supporters and she is both straight and conservative....

You have a real thing about Jackie Doyle Price don't you hearache.

No. One tory supporter does not change the objectives or the functioning of that organisation. In your mind, it does. But in reality, you are hyperbolising.

Shall we list all the 'straight' supporters of 'Stonewall'.... Some of them are very famous.

Does it change the objectives or how Stonewall function?

Your continued overstretching must be causing you a great deal of pain there hearache. Your credibility is still zero.

ScreamingMeMe · 31/05/2022 18:30

Oh a cartoon! Well that's me convinced. 😆

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:33

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 18:11

You have a real thing about Jackie Doyle Price don't you hearache.

No. One tory supporter does not change the objectives or the functioning of that organisation. In your mind, it does. But in reality, you are hyperbolising.

Shall we list all the 'straight' supporters of 'Stonewall'.... Some of them are very famous.

Does it change the objectives or how Stonewall function?

Your continued overstretching must be causing you a great deal of pain there hearache. Your credibility is still zero.

"One tory supporter does not change the objectives or the functioning of that organisation".

Very true. Even if Jackie Doyle Price didn't support it it would still be excusing homophobia, calling for LGBT spaces to be shut down and spreading misinformation about our community.

And this is not an issue about Tories. A great many of whom are strong supporters of the whole LGBT community - such as Ruth Davidson and Caroline Nokes.

Plasmodesmata · 31/05/2022 18:42

It's funny how LGBA isn't "allowed" straight supporters.
Yet nobody seems bothered that Mermaids is headed by someone who isn't trans.
Or maybe they are, who knows.

Plasmodesmata · 31/05/2022 18:43

Sorry I mean "maybe people are bothered"
not "maybe head of Mermaid is trans"
Oh for a bloody edit button.

ResisterRex · 31/05/2022 18:46

It's the Wrong Kind Of Allies again

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:47

Plasmodesmata · 31/05/2022 18:42

It's funny how LGBA isn't "allowed" straight supporters.
Yet nobody seems bothered that Mermaids is headed by someone who isn't trans.
Or maybe they are, who knows.

It's more funny how an 'LGB alliance' doesn't attract many LGB supporters. That is why they said under oath that only 7% of their subscribers are lesbian.

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1521512107774205954

They are reviled by most of the LGBT community because they only exist to undermine our rights.

Plasmodesmata · 31/05/2022 18:53

Do we know what percentage of Stonewall subscribers are lesbians?

LangClegsInSpace · 31/05/2022 18:54

I always find it strange when LGB people and their supporters are only supposed to have certain political views. It's like expecting all women, or all disabled people to share the same politics.

LGB Alliance advocates for all LGB people, not just those with a particular set of views. That's what they were set up to do.

Why shouldn't tories support them?

ScreamingMeMe · 31/05/2022 19:01

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:47

It's more funny how an 'LGB alliance' doesn't attract many LGB supporters. That is why they said under oath that only 7% of their subscribers are lesbian.

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1521512107774205954

They are reviled by most of the LGBT community because they only exist to undermine our rights.

You're repeating points that have already been addressed.

Trip to Bunbury, anyone?

titchy · 31/05/2022 19:07

spreading misinformation about our community.

Is monkeypox not dominant in gay/bi men then?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2022 19:18

It's more funny how an 'LGB alliance' doesn't attract many LGB supporters. That is why they said under oath that only 7% of their subscribers are lesbian.

Again for the hard of hearing: not all LGB people are lesbians. Please also provide number of Stonewall mailing list subscribers who are straight.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2022 19:20

Jackie Doyle Price is one of the organisation's most prominent MP supporters and she is both straight and conservative....

Jackie Doyle Price does not constitute "the LGB Alliance" in and of herself.

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 19:22

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2022 19:18

It's more funny how an 'LGB alliance' doesn't attract many LGB supporters. That is why they said under oath that only 7% of their subscribers are lesbian.

Again for the hard of hearing: not all LGB people are lesbians. Please also provide number of Stonewall mailing list subscribers who are straight.

Indeed, they are not. But in any LGBT organisation I've been a member of they certainly number more than 7%.

The reason why this is not the case with the LGB Alliance is because most of their supporters are straight as they exist solely to undermine the LGBT community

PronounssheRa · 31/05/2022 19:27

Christ, all the police forces, government departments etc are stonewall supporters/captives (*delete as appropriate). Stonewall is the establishment. Most people i know that go to pride are straight. But let's give a kicking to a new organisation led mainly by women.

There is more than a whiff of lesbophobia and misogyny in these attacks.

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 31/05/2022 19:29

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 18:02

To sum up

Incredible that this juvenile nonsense finds its way here. Surely more appropriate for the kids on tik tok or whatever. Who you actually find under the hood of the LGB Alliance is Allison Bailey, a black lesbian barrister. An extraordinary woman by all accounts. I guess that means the spicy straights have to blatantly lie.

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 19:30

PronounssheRa · 31/05/2022 19:27

Christ, all the police forces, government departments etc are stonewall supporters/captives (*delete as appropriate). Stonewall is the establishment. Most people i know that go to pride are straight. But let's give a kicking to a new organisation led mainly by women.

There is more than a whiff of lesbophobia and misogyny in these attacks.

The LGB alliance say its okay if you don't want lesbians to have the right to marry and have just called for lesbian venues to be shut!!

Now who are you calling lesbophobic?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 19:31

So hearach wants people banned on twitter for informing and protecting gay men

one assumes youll be after the nhs and WHO next

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 19:32

Oh my gosh that sounds like i want a reply from that poster….

i dont, as i assume its going to be the same as all their other posts

PronounssheRa · 31/05/2022 19:37

The LGB alliance say its okay if you don't want lesbians to have the right to marry and have just called for lesbian venues to be shut!!

LGB people are not a hive mind, many including some in stonewall weren't in favour of same sex marriage.

They called for all commercial sex venues to shut temporarily to protect people's health.

Now who are you calling lesbophobic?

The attacks on LGBA.

Have you not read any of the responses on this thread?