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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing

1004 replies

ickky · 14/04/2022 16:22

The Tribunal will start on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

I have sent a request but haven't had anything back yet. Hopefully nearer the time.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/04/2022 10:09

nauticant · 25/04/2022 10:07

Was that IO for SW saying that some witnesses A, B, and C can be identified? (Where there had been an application for an order for anonymity?)

Yes, she did.

MissPollysFitDolly · 25/04/2022 10:09

Alison has just asked if its okay to tweet.

Helleofabore · 25/04/2022 10:10

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 25/04/2022 10:05

What have you changed so you can see?

Jules

i reconnected without using the drop down selection about camera and mic. I entered and immersed selected from the pop up menu that immediately appeared.

ickky · 25/04/2022 10:11

Judge just gave permission for Tribunal Tweets to tweet.

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nauticant · 25/04/2022 10:11

Now dealing with the question of live tweeting with BC saying there don't seem to be any objections, EJ asked the counsel, and there were no objections subject to witnesses not following the live tweeting. EJ says tribunaltweets can live tweet.

Rightsraptor · 25/04/2022 10:11

Permission given for live Tweeting

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 25/04/2022 10:12

Ah ok yes that makes sense. I expect turning the camera off in those settings means I don't get the video stream!

I will wait now until they adjourn.

DelurkingLawyer · 25/04/2022 10:12

I see that SW have in their infinite wisdom decided that it’s better to have someone leading RMW

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/04/2022 10:13

Isn't RMW junior counsel?

Redshoeblueshoe · 25/04/2022 10:13

Great news about Tribunal Tweets

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 25/04/2022 10:16

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/04/2022 10:13

Isn't RMW junior counsel?

Yes, led by IO.

PronounssheRa · 25/04/2022 10:18

DelurkingLawyer · 25/04/2022 10:12

I see that SW have in their infinite wisdom decided that it’s better to have someone leading RMW

Yes, RMW is assisting Ijeoma Omambala QC. A wise decision.

NoImAVeronica · 25/04/2022 10:19

I'm still stuck at 'no one is presenting' - has everyone else got visual/audio now?

Redshoeblueshoe · 25/04/2022 10:19

#IstandwithAlisonBailey is trending on Twitter.
Has Sonia Sohda logged in ?

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 25/04/2022 10:20

NoImAVeronica · 25/04/2022 10:19

I'm still stuck at 'no one is presenting' - has everyone else got visual/audio now?

Did you join with the camera icon crossed out? I did and I think that's why I have no video.

NoImAVeronica · 25/04/2022 10:22

Yes, even though I have blue tac on my camera I still err on the side of caution, still haunted by fly-fiddler and nose-picking man from Maya's hearing! Did you get yours sorted?

Rightsraptor · 25/04/2022 10:23

I think I joined with camera on, then switched it off.

SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl · 25/04/2022 10:25

Current discussion of whether a certain document should be included - similar case of Irish therapists being bullied by Stonewall - BC says relevant as demonstrates pattern, defendant's counsel says hearsay, post-dates AB's case, etc.

ickky · 25/04/2022 10:25

you need to join with the mic and camera on - it is the courts mic and camera. then on the next page select none on the drop down menu for mic and camera.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/04/2022 10:25

I used to be a legal clerk and the 6000 pages comment just sent a shiver down my spine!

I was the poor bugger who had to put them together.

NoImAVeronica · 25/04/2022 10:27

Thanks @Rightsraptor - just clicked the camera button and am in (and thankfully didn't suddenly appear full screen!)

NoImAVeronica · 25/04/2022 10:28

Thanks @ickky, in now!

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 25/04/2022 10:30

Yay Allison re cis

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/04/2022 10:31

Nice comment from EJ Goodman!

SpindleInTheWind · 25/04/2022 10:31

Ameanstreakamilewide · 25/04/2022 10:13

Isn't RMW junior counsel?

See, I find this an odd decision in a case of this magnitude, even putting them in as a junior. Having read many of RMW's outpourings on here and part of That Book, I don't think they know equalities law as well as they claim to - and it's pretty bloody obvious that that's the case.

So an odd pick for that team. Unless it's an ideological selection?

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