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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing

1004 replies

ickky · 14/04/2022 16:22

The Tribunal will start on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

I have sent a request but haven't had anything back yet. Hopefully nearer the time.

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DomesticatedZombie · 29/04/2022 12:41

Datun · 29/04/2022 12:36

Christ, those questions, that poll. It's just like a regular afternoon on here.

Is that it? They've got nothing.

Were you expecting a giant, amazing, musical, magical genderfluid rabbit, pulled out of a hat that doesn't exist?

It's early days, I suppose.

DomesticatedZombie · 29/04/2022 12:43

Ben Cooper, if you ever see this: if you can get the phrase 'a pile of wank' into your summing up, I will personally buy you a magic rabbit.

TWO magic rabbits.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2022 12:45

Genderfluid ones?

TheBiologyStupid · 29/04/2022 12:47

DomesticatedZombie · 29/04/2022 12:43

Ben Cooper, if you ever see this: if you can get the phrase 'a pile of wank' into your summing up, I will personally buy you a magic rabbit.

TWO magic rabbits.

Better use sex not gender when selecting them, Zombie, or BC might end up with more magical bunnies than intended...

DomesticatedZombie · 29/04/2022 12:49

Cripes. Genderfluid, asexual rabbits.

tabbycatstripy · 29/04/2022 12:51

I don't know much about feminism, but I know there's no such thing as an asexual rabbit.

Datun · 29/04/2022 12:51

DomesticatedZombie · 29/04/2022 12:41

Were you expecting a giant, amazing, musical, magical genderfluid rabbit, pulled out of a hat that doesn't exist?

It's early days, I suppose.

I don't know what I was expecting. But tattered, torn and knackered arguments that have been done to death shouldn't be much of a surprise, I guess.

And, on that basis, I'm going to predict, that their platoon of witnesses are all going to be of the 'poor me, listen to sad life story' variety.

tabbycatstripy · 29/04/2022 12:53

It was not entirely unexpected that they didn't want the witness statements to be in the public domain. Wouldn't want those pesky women on MN getting hold of accounts of things that people say happened.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2022 12:55

but I know there's no such thing as an asexual rabbit.

If it identifies as such, it doesn't need to actually eschew making baby bunnies because the label is the important thing.

Pyjamagame · 29/04/2022 12:56

Just been having a peak at Allison's crowdfunder, some one just donated £500. Could it be THE Jonathan Ross???

Jonathan Ross
£500.0029th April 2022
Good luck. Stay well.

tabbycatstripy · 29/04/2022 12:58

Now we're really down the rabbit hole.

TheBiologyStupid · 29/04/2022 12:59

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2022 12:55

but I know there's no such thing as an asexual rabbit.

If it identifies as such, it doesn't need to actually eschew making baby bunnies because the label is the important thing.

So "Rabbit" is what the "R" in LGBTQWERTY+" stands for?

PrelateChuckles · 29/04/2022 13:00

I predict "feeling unsafe" will be an argument, as no evidence required.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2022 13:00

It's quite possible that it is the real Wossy.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2022 13:02

I predict "feeling unsafe" will be an argument, as no evidence required.

As you can see in my quote below from Ms Russell in Maya's tribunal appeal, which established that GC is a protected belief, she made that argument then.

Pyjamagame · 29/04/2022 13:03

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2022 13:00

It's quite possible that it is the real Wossy.

Just found this tweet, so I think it might be

twitter.com/Wommando/status/1519962370621194240

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 29/04/2022 13:08

Does anyone know how long ago that YouGov poll was done?

Redshoeblueshoe · 29/04/2022 13:08

Surely a YouGov poll will reflect whatever the group that commissions it wants.

Oh little Ross will be stamping her feet

Datun · 29/04/2022 13:08

Yes, he was a bit terfy way back when, but then had a falling out with one of his daughters over it I believe, so recanted.

Maybe the writing on the wall is just too crystal clear even for him.

SpindleInTheWind · 29/04/2022 13:17

I remember that Honey was very unhappy about Wossy's tweet back in the day and I think to cool things down at home he stepped back. However Honey is older now (obvs) and an adult, and identifies as a self-made career woman, and I think her dad is entitled to his views and presumably he does too.

mum61 · 29/04/2022 13:20

@Pyjamagame Not if Honey kinney has anything to do with it.

nauticant · 29/04/2022 13:22

This from rollonfriday about Stonewall's influence in law firms is rather relevant to this case, and a good read:

www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/exclusive-lawyers-split-over-their-law-firms-gender-identity-policies#comment-1265785

As always with rollonfriday, read the comments.

Thanks to @BrunoMadrigal, I nicked it from her thread.

SpottyBumPony · 29/04/2022 13:26

I had to pop out, when is it due to reconvene?

TheBiologyStupid · 29/04/2022 13:28

SpottyBumPony · 29/04/2022 13:26

I had to pop out, when is it due to reconvene?

Reconvenes on Tuesday at 10.00.

Xenia · 29/04/2022 13:32

Good link to the article thanks and lots of wise words in there. Hopefully we can bring workplaces to their senses.

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