Maya Forstater hearing starts Monday

[MForstater]

Hi all,

Thank you so much for all your support: emotional, intellectual, financial, spiritual(!) reading the Mumsnet feminism board is where this all started for me!

The case starts tomorrow.

It is all online. If you want to watch you need to email the tribunal for a log in to [email protected]

It kicks off at 10am - the first bit will be "admin" between the judges and the lawyers working out the timings, issues and any reporting restrictions .

Once that is all sorted the judge and the panel will go away to read (probably for the rest of Monday and all of Tuesday)

I will most likely give evidence Wednesday and Thursday.

@tribunaltweets will be tweeting the whole thing (assuming they get permission from the judge)

Links to papers will go up throughout the case at www.hiyamaya.net.

Any other questions I am happy to answer them (apart from the ones where I have to say "that is for the tribunal to hear"...)

I have made a spectators guide with FAQs etc here

Lots of love

Maya

I think Ben deserves a massive payrise.

Corpses have no identity
Reality and identity are synonymous

I can only conclude that corpses aren't real....

Apart from the normal qualities you get from a good barrister, the extra value BC is providing is that he is able to get to grips with gender identity ideology as its adherents understand it, and to examine it in comprehensible language.

LE: She should not have introduced Dolezal
BC: She didn't. The other tweeter did,
LE: Well she shouldn't have mentioned Dolezal

#CorpseRightsAreHumanRights

@yourhairiswinterfire

LE: She should not have introduced Dolezal BC: She didn't. The other tweeter did, LE: Well she shouldn't have mentioned Dolezal

My mind went straight to John Cleese with that one.

Even corpses have a biological sex.

You conflate identity and reality

meep

I hadn't expected this to be quite so entertaining. Thank You Ben.

BC reads out a record from LE in which LE says that MF was being nuanced and not transphobic. But he also says he didn't properly look at her tweets. Suggested a solution would be a social media policy.

LE has certainly hardened his stance since then!

@Cuck00soup

I hadn't expected this to be quite so entertaining. Thank You Ben.

It's the best thing I've watched in a long time. Perhaps there will be a mini series

@bishophaha

Corpses have no identity Reality and identity are synonymous

I can only conclude that corpses aren't real....

Aye. Like an old fashioned parlour game of logic and truth. Alice played it, the March girls played it. Katy played it and one answer was Popocatopetal. I wonder what LE would make of that game?

It's the best thing I've watched in a long time. Perhaps there will be a mini series

Benedict Cumberbatch as Ben Cooper? Any other suggestions?

@OvaHere

It's the best thing I've watched in a long time. Perhaps there will be a mini series

Benedict Cumberbatch as Ben Cooper? Any other suggestions?

Kristofer Hivju

BC is taking LE through the fact that once he'd said the MF he'd read where not a problem, all of the key players agreed, and the only remedy suggested was a social media policy. LE agrees with "Senior management broadly agreed that what MF had done was OK."

BC is working up to what caused the shift in their view.

'Without identity there's just a corpse.'

No. I have no gender identity and I am very much alive.

The shift came when Holly Shulman, a comms person, got involved and suggested bringing it QI, the US DE&I outfit.

@Signalbox Okay you win.

I'm in but can't see or hear anything. Am I doing something wrong?

Best of luck, Maya!

Best of luck, Maya!
All power to you .

So we were dinosaurs and we're now dinosaurs and corpses.

Oooooookay....

I'd suggest closing your session and going back in paying careful attention to the audio and video settings you select MrsSteveMcDonald.

Sorted, thanks

I've emailed off for a PIN. Thanks for the info.