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Maya Forstater hearing starts Monday

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MForstater · 06/03/2022 15:28

Hi all,

Thank you so much for all your support: emotional, intellectual, financial, spiritual(!) reading the Mumsnet feminism board is where this all started for me!

The case starts tomorrow.

It is all online. If you want to watch you need to email the tribunal for a log in to [email protected]

It kicks off at 10am - the first bit will be "admin" between the judges and the lawyers working out the timings, issues and any reporting restrictions Hmm.

Once that is all sorted the judge and the panel will go away to read (probably for the rest of Monday and all of Tuesday)

I will most likely give evidence Wednesday and Thursday.

@tribunaltweets will be tweeting the whole thing (assuming they get permission from the judge)

Links to papers will go up throughout the case at www.hiyamaya.net.

Any other questions I am happy to answer them (apart from the ones where I have to say "that is for the tribunal to hear"...)

I have made a spectators guide with FAQs etc here

Lots of love

Maya

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madeittofriday · 06/03/2022 22:36

Thank you Maja. So many women have been empowered to speak up thanks to your bravery.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 06/03/2022 22:46

Maya, you're a very honourable and clever woman. Thank you.

littlbrowndog · 06/03/2022 22:49

Go maya. She still needs money. So if you can afford any wee bit helps

DuchessMinnie · 06/03/2022 22:55

Good luck Maya, rooting for you. Will be watching with interest.

KohlaParasaurus · 06/03/2022 22:57

Best wishes, Maya. I am very grateful to you for all you do.

Changeee15467 · 06/03/2022 23:24

Good luck Maya and thank you x

CriticalCondition · 06/03/2022 23:55

Good luck, Maya. You have made such a difference. Thank you.

Dodgingsociopaths · 07/03/2022 01:02

@MForstater

I hugely admire you and donated to your first crowdfunder.

Don't want to patronise you, but I took my boss to tribunal and EAT and won after a bit of a complex history. Spent many weeks overall giving and hearing evidence.

Some tips for the tribunal (that you may have heard, but may be useful if not):
-the other side will try to distract from the list of issues, probably with character assassination. Don't let them. It's not relevant. Your barrister will interrupt if they go too far with this, but even on the questions you answer, don't give it much time or worry.
-look at the panel to give your answer, not the opposing barrister
-try to stick to the topic
-don't bitch about the other side in the corridor or the lift. Wait till you get to the claimant waiting room. Even better, book a conference room if your ET building has one.
-be honest and concise. Don't try to be too clever with answers but do direct the panel to a document if you need to see it to refresh your memory or you want them to see it.
-deliberately take the panel to your best documents as they won't read anything they're not taken to

Good luck. As someone who's been there (though less publicly), I know how hard this is.

Magenta82 · 07/03/2022 07:25

Good luck Maya Flowers

Cuck00soup · 07/03/2022 07:27

Good luck this week Maya, and thank you for taking this on. I will be following your links.

Zimniy · 07/03/2022 07:31

Best of luck Maya. I have been following this closely and wish you well. You are very much worthy of respect.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 07/03/2022 07:43

Thank you so much Maya, and the best of luck to you. I hope you get a decent judge.

Thumpsquids · 07/03/2022 07:56

Thank you Maya, for doing what many would not have the courage to do. It cannot be easy to be in your position, but I thank you for it. You're incredible.

Charley50 · 07/03/2022 08:19

Good luck Maya

Giggorata · 07/03/2022 08:24

Good luck, Maya. 💐

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2022 08:38

Good luck Maya Thanks

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/03/2022 08:45

@rabbitwoman

Maya is the reason why I am speaking up at school.

When I was doing a session on honour based violence this week and a younger teacher told me I should change 'women' to people with vulvas, I refused. When she said 'but its not just women who have vulvas' I said no, I don't believe that, and I am not going to call women who have been murdered or cut because they are women 'people with vulvas'....

...... that's because of maya.

Thank you xxxx

Good for you! What did the younger teacher say?

Good luck, Maya. You are an inspiration.

jeaux90 · 07/03/2022 09:23

Good luck Maya. I've been able to speak up because of you.

And I work in Tech which is woke central.

On the upside it's not just me, we had Katy Jon on the other day and the first question asked by one of the men was should Lia be competing in womens sports. The pushback is going mainstream even in my woke corner of the world.

AnneLovesGilbert · 07/03/2022 09:26

Thinking of you Maya, you’re wonderful.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 07/03/2022 09:40

Sending support, friendship and admiration. You're a shero, Malaysia!

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 07/03/2022 09:41

Or maybe Maya! Bugger auto cucumber.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2022 09:45

It looks like the digging has paid off and Maya has reached her funding target! Go women! and the Russians and Christian fundamentalists

BattyOrange · 07/03/2022 09:51

Good luck Maya - and thank you Flowers

Cailin66 · 07/03/2022 09:51

Maya has already done so much, such a brave women. Best of luck today.

littlbrowndog · 07/03/2022 10:15

🥰🥰✊cmon maya. You can do this

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