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UK Physios

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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

Sad
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stealtheatingtunnocks · 15/01/2023 02:52

I don’t think she is transphobic ejther. She is honest enough to say that trans medicine needs more evidence and that stonewall inclusion ideas need impact assessments. I think most physios agree but don’t speak up because CSP say TWAW and being disciplined looks Awful.

This article about it made me laugh “luficrous” is right Ludicrous

ans she started a parody of Marley? The HCPC case will have to mention it? Times article and hummed song

Calyx72 · 15/01/2023 10:25

stealtheatingtunnocks · 15/01/2023 02:52

I don’t think she is transphobic ejther. She is honest enough to say that trans medicine needs more evidence and that stonewall inclusion ideas need impact assessments. I think most physios agree but don’t speak up because CSP say TWAW and being disciplined looks Awful.

This article about it made me laugh “luficrous” is right Ludicrous

ans she started a parody of Marley? The HCPC case will have to mention it? Times article and hummed song

Thanks this has cheered me up! Elaine is brilliant and hilarious also Grin

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RadFizz · 17/01/2023 16:12

Oh, I see that the CSP CEO is retiring.

Calyx72 · 19/01/2023 07:17

RadFizz · 17/01/2023 16:12

Oh, I see that the CSP CEO is retiring.

I saw this yesterday. Wonder what differences the next one will make.

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 20/01/2023 08:14

How do they decide who it’ll be? If DB applies then I will go and be an ot

RadFizz · 20/01/2023 08:54

I highly doubt it'll be DB! I suspect considerable experience of running a large organisation will be necessary, which should rule him out.

HilarysMantelpiece · 20/01/2023 09:04

stealtheatingtunnocks · 20/01/2023 08:14

How do they decide who it’ll be? If DB applies then I will go and be an ot

Oh, RCOT is not a safe GC space either www.rcot.co.uk/file/10073/download?token=Hgat_Dgl sadly.

RadFizz · 20/01/2023 10:18

There's been a lot of talk from CSP about trans stuff but they've not actually produced any policies or guidelines etc apart from that rather woolly statement from the council. They kept quiet over the Scotland GRA vote too, which makes me think maybe the CEO has got some common sense and doesn't actually believe TWAW.

But the danger is that after she retires, they could get someone in who is 😒

stealtheatingtunnocks · 22/01/2023 10:35

Has anyone had an email from governance asking or their definition of transphobia? I don’t but someone I work with did. He says it is for sharing I am hoping to get one too

RadFizz · 22/01/2023 23:23

The vice-chair of the LGBT diversity network is blatantly male despite going as she/her so I don't think it's looking good for GC physios. A fellow physio who's a member of the network told me about this consultation on the definition of transphobia late last week. I'll see if I can find out more from them tomorrow.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/01/2023 01:38

Vice chair isn't listed on the CSP website. It's not JH, surely?

RadFizz · 23/01/2023 06:41

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria No, not JH who seems to have vanished from Twitter thankfully.

Chair and vice chair are here.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 23/01/2023 07:56

things that stand out to about that me are:
Me me me me
heteronormative
anti oppression
qualified in 22 and I’d already on an influential committee
bristol

karen resigned

i can see dots joining up

RadFizz · 23/01/2023 12:09

I see there is now a discussion about microaggressions on icsp and someone has accused Elaine of transphobia. Anonymously of course, how very brave.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/01/2023 17:23

Wow, that is a micro aggression and a half.

Irony.

RadFizz · 23/01/2023 20:56

The LGBT network have put out a tweet with the information about the consultation on the definition of transphobia. https://twitter.com/csplgbtqia/status/1616516263169167380

As far as I can see it hasn't been shared more widely and I wonder why this is?

But apparently the CSP want to hear from members with "different perspectives" which might mean GC physios?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/01/2023 21:05

I am sorely tempted to put that link on the main board here.

Why do we need to make our own definition?

Would we have a different definition than a group of e.g. engineers or oncologists or lesbians?
If we do then who's definition is definitive?

This is all very depressing and I am amazed a union is allowing accusation of a member on her professional forum.

northender · 23/01/2023 22:53

I've just read the bio of the chair of the network & we are just descending into word soup. Indigiqueer cis gay. Really?
KM posted on the microaggressions thread didn't she??

RadFizz · 24/01/2023 07:41

She did @northender but not in response to the person slandering Elaine.

I hope some GC physios respond to the consultation on the definition of transphobia though. Otherwise the likes of JH will get their way and anyone not toeing a strict TWAW line will be shipped off to a gulag run by Owen Jones!

Calyx72 · 24/01/2023 21:09

stealtheatingtunnocks · 23/01/2023 07:56

things that stand out to about that me are:
Me me me me
heteronormative
anti oppression
qualified in 22 and I’d already on an influential committee
bristol

karen resigned

i can see dots joining up

Same here.

Things are looking bad.

I hope the silent GC majority start to become less silent soon

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Calyx72 · 24/01/2023 21:18

RadFizz · 23/01/2023 12:09

I see there is now a discussion about microaggressions on icsp and someone has accused Elaine of transphobia. Anonymously of course, how very brave.

Where is this on the CSP site - one of the networks?

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Calyx72 · 24/01/2023 21:33

Found it and have made a reply.

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RadFizz · 24/01/2023 21:34

Yes @Calyx72 the profession-wide icsp network.

RadFizz · 24/01/2023 21:37

Ah Elaine's name has now been asterisked out but presumably that was by an admin as it was spelled out in full before.

Calyx72 · 24/01/2023 21:38

I don't think the asterisks make a whit of difference. It's outrageous.

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