Can start a thread in Sex and Gender, but not Feminist Chat. Why is that?

[PurpleHoodie]

Just as title says.

I can’t even see feminist chat

Because they are just doing the changes?

Because there is a desperate attempt to kettle women's voices into a corner. Fearful of losing advertising and getting "cancelled " by the incels

I'd guess that the chat forum is going as part of the re-jig of this area. Several of the threads I'm on have been retitled.

What a joke.

Fark

So no take on feminism in title

What expletives

Well this is a bit shit. There’s no acknowledgment of how fundamental this is from mumsnet is there?

I've got Feminism Chat saved as a favourite but when I go into the subject, everything is now headed Sex and Gender Debate.

The feminist chat area is currently completely empty. Presumably all existing chat topics are being screened to identify subjects which can be discussed which are relevant to feminism but which have no aspects where sex or gender is relevant to the discussion. I am interested to find out which topics will be allowed there.

The link is still www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/

Does anyone else want Feminism in the title?

Can we just have a naming convention where we name all posts in this section as FAWR: ‘post title’? Or perhaps something extra, something like in the ledgers of history you will be listed with the cowards who sold their sisters down the river to ‘be kind’?

Fucks sake. So we've had the word feminism taken away from us. And given to whom?

Nice that Mumsnet listens to its users. I look forward to the interesting feminist chat not about sex or gender.

I hope it will still be possible to search for old threads using the advanced search. This board is an important source of information on the campaign and I often use it to find the background to things, or like to things that i can remember but wouldn't know where to look otherwise. I think it's really important to keep that.

You know what really got me? On the thread about ‘why did feminism fall out of favour’ or whatever it was exactly called - so many women saying they didn’t realise the inequalities until after they had children. Until after they were mums.

And they are on here, on a site called bleeding ‘mumsnet’ but now can’t even talk about sex based issues as feminisms.

Nice one.

Why does it not have Feminism in the title of this board now??

Mumsnet have being trying to "solve" the problem of feminists having actual feminist debate for years. This is just the latest version.

Justine seems to think that lots of people hiding the feminist section is a problem. I think it's proof that lots of people don't want to engage in feminism, and you're never going to change that! Plus, people like the hide function.

Anyway, now they've hived us off into a separate section, how about those moderation rules are relaxed, in the light of the Maya Forstater result and also that the lib fems have their own section now so they can just ignore us. If they come here, they're trying to be offended, right?

@33feethighandrising

Mumsnet have being trying to "solve" the problem of feminists having actual feminist debate for years. This is just the latest version.

Justine seems to think that lots of people hiding the feminist section is a problem. I think it's proof that lots of people don't want to engage in feminism, and you're never going to change that! Plus, people like the hide function.

Anyway, now they've hived us off into a separate section, how about those moderation rules are relaxed, in the light of the Maya Forstater result and also that the lib fems have their own section now so they can just ignore us. If they come here, they're trying to be offended, right?

I second this.

@SirSamuelVimes

Fucks sake. So we've had the word feminism taken away from us. And given to whom?

Well, that'll be interesting to see. I have my popcorn at the ready

Mumsnet seem to think there's a world of people wanting to post about feminist topics that are fuck all to do with sex and gender, but have been scared off by us lot.

So, let's see what they want to use the new topic for then?

A facebook group set up in support of the Reclaim these Streets movement is all TWAW and pro sex work, and the other day they had a "sex worker" in it fucking recruiting for Only Fans. (Which is a pyramid scheme by the way).

The post was pulled eventually, but not before a long discussion normalising sex work and with the OP inviting people to DM her. The admins were slow to react because the think the feminist position is to support sex work. They mean well but it's a shit show because of their lack of understanding of basic feminist analysis.

I've only just noticed all the titles have been changed! So @MNHQ you really didn't bother listening to your users. It was repeatedly asked that feminism was left in the title, such a shame to see you've succumbed to the pressure.

Feminism and women’s rights seems to be the section name. I don’t like it, given one view of the debate is let’s hand women’s rights back and say thank you for the privilege.

They listened to some^^ users it seems.

The ability to start a thread in "feminist chat" is now there.

However, all threads only go back as far as 2021.