MOMA Bill back in the Commons today, Monday 1st March 5.15pm

[ConservativesForWomen]

New thread as previous one almost full.

List of speakers here, expected start time 5.15pm:

commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/document/45568/html

he's on about the GRA reform, self-id, gender health services - whaattt

Has he accidentally found himself at the wrong debate?

Oh, god, it's the SNP. Can I just apologise now on behalf of Scotland?

This isn't anything to do with MTF trans people, don't they get that?

Kirsten Oswald mentioned women lots of time and Pregnant and Screwed.

amendments 'interesting' - not convinced that the change is progress or progressive. Bill far too narrow, we are far less diverse in our provisions, doesn't make provision for all the other types of parental leave - not just for some new parents.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

This isn't anything to do with MTF trans people, don't they get that?

Any subject that doesn't include males just doesn't make any sense, I suppose.

I've turned off Crispin. He is infuriating

She is doing ok so far.

Okay, Kirsten Oswald reasonable points so far.

KO - women have the bulk of caring responsiblilities, lowest payment rates for maternity leave etc etc - all sounds quite positive

trans people under full on attack. In 'the other place' (HoL) they make it sound like the other way round - 'full on attack on women's rights' Lord Lucas needs to turn the ball around and see what it is like from the other side (trans rights)

What fucking DARVO nonsense. Their "rights" don't consist of everything activists demand.

yippee - lib dem

Christine Jardine - profoundly disappointed in the amendments

Oh, Lib Dems straight in with disapointment over the amendments. What a surprise.

language that excludes any group is unacceptable

No sense of irony at all.

arguing in favour of gender neutral language

important piece of legislation is being sidetracked... (ie. by the amendments)

I don't believe the language is important. I am very proud to be a mother etc

Language that excludes or removes the rights of any group is unacceptable so gender neutral language should be used and does not erase anyone.

It does not undermine my rights blah blah

Well as you're ok Christine

she is coming across as a total fanny, in the most gender-neutral way

It is so wrong to apply gender-neutral language to motherhood. Its crackers. The modern world has not replaced the reality of biology.

LGBT rights, trans minister

It's not about you, Christine.

I hope that Lib Dems are also adopting the sad face of you big meanies and the shaky head of beeee kiiind

Why do they keep talking about trans males? Nobody male is ever going to be pregnant. I know they mean trans females (trans men) but it makes zero sense.

Blunt is seriously pulling out all the 'far right' theories isn't he!