Biden has completely obliterated woman’s sex based protections as he said he would do.

[yourfaceisaforeignfood]

www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/

“Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports."

Biden just passed all the worst parts of the Equality Act by executive order (so without going through any legislation at all). It is limited in effect to agencies (I think) but those agencies include the Bureau of Prisons, Dept of Housing and Urban Development, Dept of Education, Dept of Labor etc

This will of course be unchallenged, even welcomed by the media. It will likely have a knock on effect around the world.

And I am so angry. So so angry. He was never the ‘least worst option’ he is the absolute worst option.

As Abigail Shriner says
twitter.com/abigailshrier/status/1352121732723666946?s=21

The man hasn't even been in office 24 hours and yet already you lot are picking him apart

I actually think it's more worrying that this has been done so soon after him taking office, ah America, they don't half pick them.

horizon I am very open about my views and I have yet to be called a right wing bigot! Many people agree with me. Most of my friends feel the same way, and those that didn't now understand the issues. The prison rapes appalled both sides of the argument.
You should not be ashamed of what you believe to be right or silenced in some way by the judgement of others. You are in the closet so to speak. If we started more conversations about this surely that is a good thing, as a minimum give your friends something to think about.

Trump may have been worse, but at least you knew where you were with him

On the verge of a coup and facing the end of abortion rights. Do you really think the goons who were empowered to storm the capitol are pro women's rights?! That's his base. They're anti-woke but they're not pro-women.

Biden's move to eradicate sex based protections will be a disaster for women's rights, it must be protested and women and girls must be protected. A pact with the devil was not a better option. It's a no win situation.

I found many people simply do not know what was at stake, they are unaware of the impact on them and their daughters. A loss of rights dressed up as 'progress'.

@JamieLeeCurtains

Can, in theory, the SCOTUS rule an Executive Order unconstitutional? Does anyone know?

I think so. Were a white supremacist president to try to introduce an EO reintroducing segregation, I think it would be struck down

The legal process was one we saw the beginnings of with Trump's Muslim ban - it never made it as far as SCOTUS, IIRC, but several lower courts ruled it illegal.

I found many people simply do not know what was at stake, they are unaware of the impact on them and their daughters. A loss of rights dressed up as 'progress'

The rest are just "it will bee happen" types.

Never quite wondering why if it doesn't change anything is it needed in the first place? 🤔

Never

Not bee...not sure how that typo happened

Itll only take a few incidents to happen and boom itll be on top of everyone's radar

@feelingquitehopeful

I found many people simply do not know what was at stake, they are unaware of the impact on them and their daughters. A loss of rights dressed up as 'progress'.

This is the problem and the reason why the activists will go to any lengths to shut us up (including monitoring what we say here).

They are no longer women's rights Quaagers. They are universal rights belonging to both men and women. They are not the legal domain of the biological sex class that require the rights. The law does not now recognise the existence of a biological sex class that requires those rights.

The ability to recognise the people who OWN those rights and can exercise those rights has been abolished.
They are now universal human rights and apply to all humans: those who are male and those who are female.

I did not say the right to an abortion has been abolished. I said that women's rights are now an illusion.

Abortion is not a woman's right, if the law believes it is also a man's right. Who are the right holders under the law? Both men and women. All humans. Who can legally claim an interest in that right? All humans. How to legally distinguish between those that need and can exercise the right, and those who do not, and cannot?

You can't.
How to ensure that those people who do not need and cannot exercise those rights are excluded from influencing the future of those rights?
You can't.
There is no recognition of the existence of the class that are the right-holders and the class that is not.

Spectacular misuse of 'illiterate' there

It's some pretty impressive whataboutery that we now have to solve all the problems: covid, poverty, racism before we're 'allowed' to express concern about women's rights being eroded. Has anyone told Greta she can go back to school and quit campaigning for the environment because there are still people starving on some parts of the world, or that all the wars haven't been peaceably resolved?

Actually, Greta is a girl, what am I saying, she's probably been told it hundreds of times.

Then there's the feeble but predictable argument from some that not 'all' rights are affected so we should just be happy with that. Like a paltry 2 week maternity leave is something worth celebrating.

Sorry, but every single girl who is denied a place on a podium, a university scholarship, protection from male bodies counts. It's not fair that we're only allowed to be outraged when the magic number of n+1 of women being screwed over is reached.

I am v concerned about this, but on reading the be executive order, it seems very woolly/high level and I'm not seeing anything that's of specific concern re prisons, sports etc. Can anyone please point me to anything specific in it (or anything that it enacts) which specifically has this effect?

I'm concerned of the direction things are moving, and where it might lead, but on initial reading, this just seems a lot of waffle, as well as since sensible stuff like access to housing, and I'm wondering whether it actually does as far as we are worried about?

Then there's the feeble but predictable argument from some that not 'all' rights are affected so we should just be happy with that. Like a paltry 2 week maternity leave is something worth celebrating

No, not at all, was just commenting on the hyperbolic "all rights have fallen" post.

I actually feel quite sick when I read your posts barrack because they are so spot on, they illuminate so very well and in the process brings home the true impact to all of us. It is shocking.

They are no longer women's rights Quaagers. They are universal rights belonging to both men and women.

OK..... how is abortion a mens right?

@feelingquitehopeful

I found many people simply do not know what was at stake, they are unaware of the impact on them and their daughters. A loss of rights dressed up as 'progress'.

Sadly, they're going to learn the hard way. America will show us exactly why this is a bad, bad idea. So many women and girls are going to be harmed because of this bullshit. But as long as the men are alright, right? That's the main fucking thing.

There's no thought gone in to this at all. No rights of other people considered. Just giving in to ridiculous demands, and putting way too much faith in predators, as if saying 'I'm a woman' or walking into a gender neutral loo/changing room will be too much effort for them to go to

This is a massive win for men's rights. Meanwhile women are going to have to start again, from scratch.

This is NOT about trans rights - it’s about women’s rights. This is blatant, state enforced sexism. Why is institutionalised sexism and misogyny to be relegated as less important compared to other forms of discrimination? This negatively impacts on all women in the US - and I would very much imagine that Muslim, Black and Hispanic women are going to be disproportionally impacted by this.

It won’t be the women in Biden’s family who lose out on scholarships/jobs or will share prison cells rapists.

Some clarification about challenging Executive Orders:

Congress may try to overturn an executive order by passing a bill that blocks it. But the president can veto that bill. Congress would then need to override that veto to pass the bill. Also, the Supreme Court can declare an executive order unconstitutional.

www.usa.gov/how-laws-are-made#item-35862

Obviously Congress will be a no-go for the foreseeable future so it looks like any challenge would have to go up to the Supreme Court.

@Quaagars

All women's rights have fallen and what remains is an illusion

Right to abortion: yep, still there

Right to maternity leave: yep, still there.

So your post not really accurate, they haven't all fallen at all.

Right to Maternity leave in the USA?

Not there in the first place.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/27/maternity-leave-us-policy-worst-worlds-richest-countries

Right to abortion? May still be there but hugely restricted and constantly under threat.

www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/abortion-access-tool/US

@Apollo440

If anyone needed reminding what brought Trump to power this is it.

Yes. I was a never Trumper, but after what I learned in the last few years, he was a lesser evil than Biden/Harris/Democrats.

how is abortion a mens right?

Are you saying men cant have babies...

I am v concerned about this, but on reading the be executive order, it seems very woolly/high level and I'm not seeing anything that's of specific concern re prisons, sports etc. Can anyone please point me to anything specific in it (or anything that it enacts) which specifically has this effect?

Biden himself has said on camera that his intention is for any prisoner who identifies as female to be held in the female estate. By grouping gender identity with sex the order effectively makes them the same and therefore confirms TWAW when it comes to anti-discrimination policy. Therefore women will not be able to argue that a male person shouldn't compete in female events in the states or that they shouldn't be on all women shortlists, because they ARE women.

@Whatwouldscullydo

how is abortion a mens right?

Are you saying men cant have babies...

As if that was what was meant lol Nice side step though

Are you saying men cant have babies..

In the brave new world that Biden has signed up to and will ‘rigorously enforce’ - that’s transphobic.