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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID

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SunsetBeetch · 03/09/2020 20:11

I thought of doing this thread a while ago, and the thread about GMB has just reminded me.

This is to collect examples of people companies, etc who have strongly supportedself ID and spouted off about "bigoted" "terfs" who have then shown themselves to be hypocritical/misogynistic/downright dangerous.

Please feel free to add your own examples!

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 02/05/2021 21:34

[quote OhHolyJesus]From all the work been done by @SunsetBeetch this compliments the catalogue being held here and on other threads.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/a-pattern-is-emerging?fbclid=IwAR1MAWz7EkXZAuOcMSp0ct85qbHqIzmaqKiXSKAgjdlsSNOkoIYZhJZQI[/quote]
Seeing the list of names and what they've done - and their public stance that safeguarding is superfluous - it's wretched.

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2021 21:44

Oof, OhHoly. It is quite stark when laid out like that. A bit horrible to have one's suspicions confirmed, but then again, people say women should trust their intuition.

OhHolyJesus · 02/05/2021 21:56

Stark and undeniable I'd say. There are just so many.

The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
OhHolyJesus · 02/05/2021 21:57

Sorry that is a totally random screenshot!

Apologies that wasn't meant to derail the discussion.

Womansisterdaughtermother · 02/05/2021 22:18

@OhHolyJesus yes that is V stark and v powerful when collated like thatAngry

ScreamingMeMe · 13/06/2021 11:48

Lawyer Simon Cox. Hateful, hyperbolic tweets about GC people. One of his ex girlfriends comes forward to say he was abusive.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4269446-A-contender-for-Jolyon-s-crown?watched=1&msgid=108164535#108164535

ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2021 10:20

Brew Dog.

Virtue signalled donating to Mermaids:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3657894-BrewDog-getting-their-arse-handed-to-them-another-brand-to-avoid

Exposed as having a "toxic culture in which misogny and sexism were excused and harrassment and bullying thrived".

www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/time-to-grow-up-for-brewdog-the-punk-upstart-now-worth-more-than-2bn-12335118

Couchbettato · 18/06/2021 10:49

Bookmarking this because my place of employment are well and truly on the inclusivity bandwagon, obviously at the expense of women.

When I was puking 10 times a day during pregnancy I was not allowed to use the men's toilets, of which there were 2 on our floor, and no ladies bathroom unless you go up or down a floor.

It seems to have an agenda.

ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2021 11:13

The RA, who removed Jess De Wahls work form their shop following 8 complaints from TRAs, but are seemingly happy to continue to sell work from abusers and misogynists. See this thread for further details.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4272712-Jess-de-Wahls?msgid=108308910#108308910

ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2021 11:14

@Couchbettato

Bookmarking this because my place of employment are well and truly on the inclusivity bandwagon, obviously at the expense of women.

When I was puking 10 times a day during pregnancy I was not allowed to use the men's toilets, of which there were 2 on our floor, and no ladies bathroom unless you go up or down a floor.

It seems to have an agenda.

That's dreadful!
ScreamingMeMe · 30/08/2021 22:28

Noah Berlatsky

Noah has a trans child, and some interesting ideas on autonomy for young people:

www.patreon.com/posts/49110194

archive.vn/ERt8y

Noah is now the Director of pro paedophilia organisation Prostasia, and has made some very concerning statements in the past:

By Anna Slatz for 4W

4w.pub/prostasia-normalize-pedophilia/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Most recently, writer Noah Berlatsky was taken in as a director at Prostasia. Berlatsky previously came under fire for writing an article published in New Republic under the title “Child Sex Worker’s Biggest Threat: The Police” in which he lamented the treatment of “children engaged in survival sex” by police officers. While fighting corruption within the justice system is certainly a valid issue, at no point did Berlatsky note the obvious fact that children cannot consent to sexual activity of any kind, instead spending his article suggesting that children forced into prostitution were willing participants in an oppressed, but legitimate, trade.

In 2017, Berlatsky tweeted “pedophiles are essentially a stigmatized group.”

Jaysmith71 · 31/08/2021 09:14

Peter Newell, who rewrote the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child to replace 'sex' with 'gender identity in line with the Yogyakarta Principles.

Peter Newell, child sex offender:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5399247/UNICEF-kids-rights-campaigner-jailed-rape-boy-13.html

Helleofabore · 01/09/2021 09:01

Sorry if this has already been posted.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1432964413116583939?s=21

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/former-manchester-councillor-carl-ollerhead-21449178

Former Manchester Labour councillor Carl Ollerhead, who said that males have a right to access women's and girls' spaces such as toilets and there is no evidence that this is dangerous, has been charged with indecently assaulting a girl under the age of 16.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/09/2021 09:35

There's already a graphic of the influential men in councils etc in favour of mixed sex toilets who later turned out to be sex offenders, and I don't think this latest guy is on there yet, because it is most definitely A Thing.

Datun · 01/09/2021 10:00

@Ereshkigalangcleg

There's already a graphic of the influential men in councils etc in favour of mixed sex toilets who later turned out to be sex offenders, and I don't think this latest guy is on there yet, because it is most definitely A Thing.
I'm not in the slightest bit surprised. Any man who rants at women for their and their children's boundaries is already violating them.
Helleofabore · 01/09/2021 10:50

That is interesting Eresh. That graphic would be a great resource on the Break it Down for me thread I think.

PandorasMailbox · 01/09/2021 13:08

I think it's this one @Helleofabore

The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
FrancescaContini · 01/09/2021 13:11

@Suffrajester

Aimee himself is openly a "babyfur" ie has a fetish for pretending to be a juvenile anthropomorphic animal. Much like David had a fetish for pretending to be a child. Not illegal in itself if it's genuinely purely fantasy, but you have to wonder how someone develops that interest in the first place, and when his dad was found acting it out by torturing an actual child and he did nothing, it's very suspect. And posting about it publicly I'd argue takes it out of the realm of fantasy anyway, it's attaching your own name to it and putting it in the public sphere, where it can be linked to you by children using services you're involved in and they then see it as normal. That reminds me: James Makings, the NSPCC rubber suit wanker (literally). He's another one to add to the list.
Jesus fucking Christ.

Thank you for this thread. It’s really important.

FrancescaContini · 01/09/2021 13:13

@PandorasMailbox

I think it's this one *@Helleofabore*
Thank you for posting this
PandorasMailbox · 01/09/2021 13:15

It's a hugely disturbing graphic and there are more names that can be added to it now. It'll no doubt become a lot larger before all this is over.

Helleofabore · 01/09/2021 13:16

PandorasMailbox

Thank you PandorasMailbox.

That is a stark reminder.

EsmaCannonball · 01/09/2021 14:50

There should be some kind of law where the police immediately search the hard drive of anyone advocating mixed-sex facilities.

PandorasMailbox · 01/09/2021 15:09

@EsmaCannonball

There should be some kind of law where the police immediately search the hard drive of anyone advocating mixed-sex facilities.
Some of us have been suggesting this for years, but have been roundly ignored by the police and every other organisation because #thisneverhappens.
ScreamingMeMe · 08/03/2022 18:04

John Bercow, ex Speaker of the House of Commons and mate of Edward Lord.

Ranted about 'terfs' to Pink News.

Has now been exposed as a dreadful workplace bully.

Both discussed here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3298016-John-Bercows-rant-about-Gender-Critical-women?pg=2

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2022 21:50

What a depressing thread. So many men in power removing safeguarding while being abusers.