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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I have been recorded by my local police force as 'hateful'

187 replies

Spero · 31/07/2020 09:15

Dear All

I am posting here in case I 'disappear' from Twitter. I set out the background here if you want to read more.
twitter.com/SVPhillimore/status/1289109245280100353?s=20

In a nutshell I made a Subject Access Request of Wiltshire police after a Twitter account boasted I now had a 'record for life' of my 'hate'. The police disclosed to me 12 pages of screenshots that were not hateful in the least; they were mainly discussions about the GC debate that have been confirmed as protected political speech.

I have requested this is deleted; the Information Management Team at Wiltshire have declined so I will go through their appeal process, eventually to the PCC and then judicial review.

I am writing to urge ANYONE who publishes on line about gender ID etc in their own name or is otherwise readily identifiable, to make a SAR of you own force to see what is recorded against you; you will not be told.

If there are others in the same position as me it might be sensible to consider joining forces in some kind of class action.

hopefully I will know by the autumn if I am going for JR.

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Spero · 31/07/2020 19:14

the occurrence report seemed only concerned about one of the tweets where I said 'I think my dog may be Jewish, shall I leave him behind'?.

The Specialist Hate Crimes Officer said a public order offence is 'not wholly made out' as there wasn't sufficient proof I was intending to say Jewish people were like dogs.

I wasn't. It was a stupid remark in a long conversation. But the context of the tweets were deliberately ignored.

the occurrence report then specifically said the rest were my opinion and not a crime, however 'offensive' to the Reporting Person.

But it still starts with a 'barrister who has been posting hate'.

I am entirely unclear what the police have categorised my discussion re abortion rights for eg.

Whole thing a ridiculous hot mess.

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Kantastic · 31/07/2020 19:24

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RadandMad · 31/07/2020 19:26

So appalled by this, Spero. Count me in with any digging.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 31/07/2020 19:45

could I write a bot that randomly reports Tweets as Hate against me personally and become, single-handedly, the most oppressed group in the entire country?

I can just hear some people's eyes lighting up at the very thought.

MamaLion1319 · 31/07/2020 19:47

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JackiesArmy · 31/07/2020 19:56

Interesting comment, MamaLion. I presume you have proof?

Your last sentence is confusing. I presume it means Spero isn't a [omits word to avoid deletion]

ArriettyJones · 31/07/2020 19:56

@MamaLion1319 not only is that a personal attack, it doesn’t even make sense. I honestly can’t work out what you’re accusing her of.

MamaLion1319 · 31/07/2020 19:59

I'm not commenting for the followers of this post, my comments are for Sarah.

JackiesArmy · 31/07/2020 20:01

I'm sure she'll be delighted to hear from you. You sound lovely Grin

MamaLion1319 · 31/07/2020 20:01

Bless you @JackiesArmy

ArriettyJones · 31/07/2020 20:01

@MamaLion1319

I'm not commenting for the followers of this post, my comments are for Sarah.
Nonsense. If you didn’t want an audience you’d send your abusive messages privately.
MamaLion1319 · 31/07/2020 20:04

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DazedWifelet · 31/07/2020 20:05

We are living in 1984. It's scary!

ArriettyJones · 31/07/2020 20:07

You can keep blessing everyone who objects @MamaLion1319 but you still look abusive and irrational.

JackiesArmy · 31/07/2020 20:07

I've seen many family court cases where she has supported abused children. Unless of course you are one of the "forced adoption" lot who are completely bonkers

DazedWifelet · 31/07/2020 20:11

@ArriettyJones I think it's only recorded on PNC if you are charged with a recordable offence (as per the relevant Act). Most likely this would be on a force's own database.

ArriettyJones · 31/07/2020 20:12

Oh that’s interesting. So the DBS draws from both?

MamaLion1319 · 31/07/2020 20:14

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JackiesArmy · 31/07/2020 20:18

Yes, I'm sure she knows, and from what I've seen she takes a moral stand to protect the most vulnerable.

If you have evidence to the contrary (even one instance) I would love to see it. If you don't post any actual facts, then I'll continue to believe that you are taking this personally, which (in my experience) is often interesting.

QueenCoconut · 31/07/2020 20:23

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BoreOfWhabylon · 31/07/2020 20:28

Intolerant of whom, @QueenCoconut?

QueenCoconut · 31/07/2020 20:40

My post above was to show the previous poster that she’s not alone with her critical view of the OP ( although I do disagree with the use of offensive language).

I’m not going to attempt and debate with you Bore over what is and what isn’t intolerant in my opinion as I know it will only upset me.
Trying to talk about trans issues within this group is like being a person from a BAME background attempting to explain to a group of racists why they feel discriminated against. You’d never win would you?

BoreOfWhabylon · 31/07/2020 20:51

Ah. Unsubstantiated allegations then.

QueenCoconut · 31/07/2020 21:02

I can just see you thumping the table in satisfaction.
Point made.