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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
IAintentDead · 23/06/2020 23:46

I've just seen on Facebook, a good friend, who has seen the Pink News article and is calling Mumsnet all the names under the sun.

Never discussed the TWAW thing with her so don't know how she stands on it. Could be either way - she's youngish but also has a teenage daughter. I'd rather talk to her about it than enter a FB discussion but really want to put something.

OvaHere · 23/06/2020 23:50

Seeing as PN are specifically referencing MN it might be an idea for the OP @Dhalandchips to get this thread name changed to something more recognisable as I imagine some people will come looking to see what it was all about.

Thelnebriati · 23/06/2020 23:50

The two main archive sites are The Wayback Machine and Archive.Is, remember to check the link hasn't already been archived first.
Its also prudent to create a PDF of the webpage and save it in case the archive is deleted. Most web browsers have a plug in that will let you do that in one click.

web.archive.org

archive.is

SunsetBeetch · 23/06/2020 23:52

I use this site to archive. It's really easy: just copy the link into the box at the top:

archive.vn/

Yes, don't give Pink News clicks if you can help it. Don't give them the and revenue!

SunsetBeetch · 23/06/2020 23:53

Oh,cross post with TheInebriati0

stumbledin · 24/06/2020 00:04

In some ways, whether or not you click direct to PN or read an archived copy we give them the oxygen of publicity they need to keep going (there were rumours they were in financial trouble) by acknowledging them.

Maybe they once were a newspaper reporting information and facts. Now they are just some huge wind machine puffing air into the hot air balloon of trans activism.

The real problem is once one of their articles is available virtually it will be used as a reference source for future items in MSM. They wont bother to check, they will just use PN as fact.

This has been one of the biggest problems in trying to get any sort of rational reporting on the issue.

(I see they say they have asked mumsnet for a comment.)

Maybe one positive side effect of this might be that some people read the mumsnet thread and realise they agree with the comments!

TehBewilderness · 24/06/2020 00:07

I'm confused, Are the names of the drag performers that put on their show for children at the libraries a secret? Why would the library allow anonymous men in drag to put on a show for children without following required safeguarding policies?

SunsetBeetch · 24/06/2020 06:54

By clicking directly on a Pink News page, we're generating ad revenue for them though, stumbledin , not just attention. As I've just said in another thread, I'm beginning to think these crazy stories are calculated, as GC people are the only ones reading them these days Smile

PelicanDeuce · 24/06/2020 07:12

cllr Field on the other hand is getting abusive messages from all over the world. A single mum seriously affected by cancer.

SunsetBeetch · 24/06/2020 07:22

Disgusting people. Right side of history my arse.

DickKerrLadies · 24/06/2020 07:39

Right, firstly Josh, no one suggested that Samuel be 'crucified'. You have taken what someone said, which included the word 'crucified' meaning (dictionary definition) criticize (someone) severely and unrelentingly., and you have twisted it into something completely different.

This is almost hilarious.

The author of this piece is either stupid enough to not understand this or is dishonest enough to make out like they didn't understand it.

Stupid or a liar? I wonder which it is.

I guess we'll find out if an apology ever comes.

FreeKitties · 24/06/2020 07:41

I’ve been thinking about this and if I were @MNHQ I would be taking action against PN for this, they aren’t just playing fast and loose with interpretations of what some posters have said they have made up outright lies, and lies designed to stir up hatred and abuse.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/06/2020 07:42

threatened with crucifixion

Nah, mate, it's your side that does shit like that. Women may tell you that they think you're wrong or that you are doing a bad thing. This is not the same thing as being threatened with death. I realize that the concept that your ego is not your self is challenging for a narcissist.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/06/2020 07:42

And yes, Justine should sue the shit out of them.

Kit19 · 24/06/2020 07:43

I agree FreeKitties - it’s part of the ongoing strategy to bully MN into stopping discussions on these boards

ArfArfBarf · 24/06/2020 07:46

Funny how they’ve got no screenshots or any evidence at all except the entirely civil Twitter concerns about misogyny.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/06/2020 07:47

They'll be demanding that MNHQ check all users for extra nipples next.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2020 09:08

Pink News seem to follow the mantra that if you get something out there and let it spread it doesn’t matter that the veracity of the story can be checked within a few minutes because their loyal followers will lap it up. Pure propaganda.

YY. People need to start suing them.

SerenityNowwwww · 24/06/2020 09:42

Reminds me of the story that was going around at the last US election that Hilary Clinton and her buddies were running a pedophile ring, and had kids in chains in the basement of a pizza parlour in Washington.

And yes some dimwit did rock up with a shotgun to ‘free those children’.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 24/06/2020 09:51

What a load of cobblers.

MonsteraCheeseplant · 24/06/2020 09:56

If they had a single shred of evidence it'd be screen shotted and plastered all over the article and Twitter. They got nothing because they've made it all up.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/06/2020 10:04

DragQueenLibraryGate rather than Pizzagate? Has the built in bonus that normal people who've yet to be inducted into the ways of gender will naturally respond with "what would a library want with a drag queen?"

Enderthedragon · 24/06/2020 10:24

This stuff is literally inciting hatred against women isn't it? Or at least against a certain section of women, the women who don't capitulate.

It reminds me of the Britain First Facebook page, where they would take something, anything they could find, twist it beyond all recognition and then post it as 'proof' that Muslims are terrible.

I mean, where are the screenshots? Is a publication like PN even legally allowed to write articles like this with no proof?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2020 10:45

I have said this before - I have never been in an abusive relationship, I have never seen someone twist things, deny, deflect, gaslight and outright fucking lie at times. I sort of imagined what it would be like, how strange it would be to go through. And now I see it with the TRAs, it's just so strange to watch.

I have, and I agree with you 100%.

JemimaShore · 24/06/2020 10:49

This stuff is literally inciting hatred against women isn't it? Or at least against a certain section of women, the women who don't capitulate.

Yes.

Joanna Cherry, Julie Bindel, JK Rowling, JK Rowling's publisher, JK Rowling's Literary agency, Baroness Nicholson, Mumsnet.

It's a war on women, and it's the start of the backlash. JK Rowling & the government panning self-ID has been devastating to them.

Incidentally, TRAs are posting disgusting memes & threatening messages on JK Rowling's retweets of children's drawings for her latest children's book. Her tweets are often re-tweeted by the children's schools. They are the lowest of the low.

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