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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fallon Fox

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AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 10:13

Can't see a thread about this, which has enraged me this morning - Fox bragging (on a JKR tweet to a child!) about beating up women

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nancybotwinbloom · 17/06/2020 14:59

I can only hope that a man or a few men say they are TW purely to fight this piece of shit and give him a proper tuning.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 15:00

It's one of those things where most people go "surely they wouldn't let that happen". Every single bloody time it turns out they already have.

BovaryX · 17/06/2020 15:02

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Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 17/06/2020 15:17

He's a monster. Watching him get the shit beaten out of HIM by Ashlee Evans was a pleasure. He looked vicious. But she won!

How it is allowed is absolutely beyond me.

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BovaryX · 17/06/2020 15:24

I don’t understand why the organisers of that fight haven’t been visited by the police, the female opponent didn’t realise she was facing a man until it was too late, how can that be legal?

How is this allowed? How the hell can this be going on? Not in secret. In the full glare of the spotlight, with an audience? I can't say what I think about this person. The whole thing is so shocking.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 15:26

I have some rather pointed thoughts about the audience who cheered that on too.

BovaryX · 17/06/2020 15:29

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

I have some rather pointed thoughts about the audience who cheered that on too.
Absolutely agree. It's just despicable.
nancybotwinbloom · 17/06/2020 15:35

I wonder if the audience knew it was a women and a TW?

I mean, I'm not a fan of MMA myself but I can understand why people are.

The training they have to do to be at peak physical fitness and the years they have spent training in whatever fighting style is full time. Full dedication. It's a lifestyle not just a job.

I don't think anyone would go and expect a women to fight a TW.

You know what pisses me off, if any of the women in professional football teams for example said I'm now a transman, we are not going to see them in the male team in the premier league are we?

No chance but a man saying oh well I'm A TW now, there they are, collecting medals and now beating us up it appears.

Whoever made this decision that this was fair is on crack and glue.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 17/06/2020 15:36

Does anyone have to hand the scientific differences between males & females in sport even if the male is taking hormones.
I know I've seen it on here but I can't find it.
I'd be really grateful if someone can point me in the right direction.

nancybotwinbloom · 17/06/2020 15:41

I sound terrible on these posts really anti trans and I am not.

I will support anyone for FAIR treatment.

This is just horrific though. It's not physically fair.
The toilet thing, the changing room thing, the sanitary product thing, even the terminology, I can see all the different sides to all that but this, what this thread was started about. I can never see anything but the violence here against women and being allowed to happen like it's ok. Even charging to watch it like it's ok.

Binterested · 17/06/2020 15:48

That Guardian article on Lauren Jeska is what opened my eyes to this whole shit show.

White male bodied person almost murders black man just doing their job - leaves him with life changing injuries. And it’s poor dear Lauren who is the victim according to the Guardian. The double think was so glaring it stopped me in my tracks. And I’ve been seeing the truth of it ever since.

It’s ironic because the Guardian were trying to hoodwink me but only succeeded in alerting me to this whole lie.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 16:03

Anyone who supports this does so because they revel in the idea of men being able to beat up women and be cheered on while doing it. There's just no other logical conclusion to draw. There's no grey area, it's just a celebration of male violence against women.

Shockedandbefuddled · 17/06/2020 16:07

You are all being very unkind about one of the most vulnerable people in society.

PopperUppleton · 17/06/2020 16:27

The vulnerable person being the woman with the broken face, or the gleeful man who smacked her? Confused

RoyalCorgi · 17/06/2020 16:33

White male bodied person almost murders black man just doing their job - leaves him with life changing injuries. And it’s poor dear Lauren who is the victim according to the Guardian. The double think was so glaring it stopped me in my tracks. And I’ve been seeing the truth of it ever since.

Yes, one of the most shameful articles to appear in the Guardian. And by god, there's competition.

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 16:40

Further reading on ‘women’ doing things that apparently would never happen here

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 16:41

Definite trigger warning for above thread - apologies, I forgot to include it. Definitely NSFW.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:42

Thanks Oncewas for the link to that undertheropes article about the convicted criminal Tara Wolf.

I find it very sinister that the violent misogynist and granny basher decided to study Krav Maga, and after failing at that discipline, went on to emulate the notorious Fallon Fox, by choosing to train in mixed martial arts, which under current UK rules allows him to use his huge physical advantages to batter women with complete impunity.

I was not aware that Tara had travelled to Thailand to hone their skills and wonder how the trip was funded?

Of course Thailand has a long tradition of accepting Kathoey or ladyboys, who, like the Samoan Faʻafafine, the Muxes of Mexico and the Hijras of India, make no claims to being actual women. In fact they are shocked and disgusted by the idea that males would want to, and would be allowed, to use their natural physical advantages to compete unfairly in women's sports.

In Thailand poor Tara had no choice but to fight a person of their own sex, because transwomen are not allowed to compete against actual women in Thailand, (or in Samoa).

From the photographs I was struck again by how wide Tara's shoulders are, and how long those attached arms are. Extended reach of that kind must confer an advantage. The other chap doesn't seem to feature in any of the pictures, so we can only speculate about the contrast between their respective builds, and any advantage the granny basher might have expected to have or how much it may have boosted their confidence before the fight started.

When asked how she feels about having to fight men, Tara says “I do think it’s unfair, but if I have to do it, I might as well use it to my advantage and get noticed”. She also adds that she’s doubtful she’ll ever be able to go pro, at least in the UK. Instead, she plans to “have an amateur career fighting women in the UK and then fight men in Thailand”.

I was very struck by how clearly Tara recognised the difference between being whacked by a male person compared to when he fights against woman.

after a barrage of blows, the referee stopped the fight. “I’ve never taken kicks like that before”, Tara smiled as she clutched her forearm,

Yet this does not seem to have decreased their desire to continue to use their own massively unfair advantage to beat up women in the UK.

The best news is that the Wolf announced they are not particularly attached to the UK and are open to relocating abroad. I hope that the lucky country is one like Thailand or Samoa, with sensible laws protecting females from violent males who would blithely use their unfair physical advantages to thrash them in women's sports.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:50

Does anyone have to hand the scientific differences between males & females in sport even if the male is taking hormones.

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:51

Or this?

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:55

This lists male physical advantages.

Here's a link to how boys under 18 are able to beat the elite women's top sporting results. web.law.duke.edu/sports/sex-sport/comparative-athletic-performance/

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ItsLateHumpty · 17/06/2020 16:57

@nauticant cheers for the links and archive. I can’t open archive.fo, is there any way you can also archive the tweets to archive.li/ since the original has been deleted?

I can’t post too much else, because I’ll be deleted and banned but suffice to say FF is an abhorrent, morally bankrupt, pos.

DandyMandy · 17/06/2020 17:02

Utterly disgusting and yet these people claim they're oh so oppressed? Give me a break. They're a bunch of incels but at least they're showing who they really are. Keep going TRAs, you're doing a great job exposing yourselves.

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 17:05

Remember too, that regardless of the specific capabilities of each individual in relation to another, having boys and men competing against girls and women makes a complete mockery of legislation protecting equality for females.

It is not equality, in any sense of the word, when women’s places for scholarships, funding, sports and their chances of winning in competition in general are taken by men. And the same, as appropriate, for girls.

nauticant · 17/06/2020 17:26

ItsLateHumpty: I put the original URL of the twitter page into archive.li and found the twitter page already archived:

archive.li/PohHR

It has the same string, .../PohHR, as the archived page in archive.fo so I assume that archiving in archive.fo also archives in archive.li and vice versa.