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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fallon Fox

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AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 10:13

Can't see a thread about this, which has enraged me this morning - Fox bragging (on a JKR tweet to a child!) about beating up women

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donquixotedelamancha · 17/06/2020 11:37

If a person is legally a woman, they can compete in women's sport?

They don't have to be legally a woman (though obviously that makes it much harder to refuse), it varies by sport. Many of them simply require sreduced level of testosterone.

I seem to recall that one of the two big weight lifting federations in America is completely self-ID with no restrictions.

donquixotedelamancha · 17/06/2020 11:41

And, of course most sporting bodies which permit this won't have any testosterone testing at an amateur or semi-pro level so (potentially and in real life examples) some women/girls will never get the chance to reach the professional level because they compete against men.

AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 11:47

bluebellsarebells Lauren Pleska I believe

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donquixotedelamancha · 17/06/2020 11:49

mobile.twitter.com/FallonFox/status/1273024244956434438

Link to the original tweet.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 11:50

God. If this is genuine... what awful people some TRAs are.

It's genuine. The Twitter account goes back a decade and documents all Fox's MMA career and TRA activism.

SarahTancredi · 17/06/2020 11:50

Well this does us a favour a bit doesnt it.

Now they have been given a sense if security they are all showing their they colours now.

They are a disgusting human being

AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 11:51

Sorry that should be Jeska, Pleska is a TRA who named themselves after the fell runner

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AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 11:52

Also I believe it was attempted murder, but not for lack of trying

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Jumblebumblemess · 17/06/2020 11:55

As absolutely horrified and disgusted as I am by this tweet, I am also so relieved that people are seeing him for what he is.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 12:03

Also I believe it was attempted murder, but not for lack of trying

The poor male victim was left horribly injured and did nearly die, which is why Jeska got such a long sentence.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2017/03/14/lauren-jeskas-victim-i-am-very-lucky-to-be-alive-after-near-death-experience-of-knife-attack/

The Guardian of course chose to take this angle Hmm

www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/17/jailed-transgender-fell-runner-thought-uk-athletics-was-trying-to-kill-her

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 12:03

Sorry, American, quote fail!

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 17/06/2020 12:10

Flipping heck. I've seen the TRA you mentioned on Twitter American, but never made the link about their name 😮

I used to report a lot of the abusive comments, use of "terf" etc on Twitter (and generally had the reports upheld, though it seems to take a very long time till they respond). But lately, unless they are particularly appalling towards an individual or something and really need to be taken down, I'm more inclined to let them stand and show the world who they are...

AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 12:11

No worries Ereshkigal I remember reading that report in The Guardian (I'm a runner and had fell running friends in Northumberland) and thinking wtaf?

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andyoldlabour · 17/06/2020 12:14

Ereshkigalangcleg

Lauren Jeska tried to murder him, simply because Jaska was being asked to produce testosterone samples.
Thankfully Jeska has now had their championship wins erased.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Fell_Running_Championships

Thelnebriati · 17/06/2020 12:16

Ralph Knibbs suffered sight loss and a neurological disorder as a result of that attack.
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-rugby-star-ralph-knibbs-9198

andyoldlabour · 17/06/2020 12:21

Great reply in the Fallon Fox twitter thread - "#EmmaWatson, still think TWAW?.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 17/06/2020 12:27

Anyone else think Fallon was on a bender last night?
Not even the most vile TRA would be so stupid...surely?

blubellsarebells · 17/06/2020 12:28

Thanks for the links.
Most of the details had escaped me.

Why are so many prominent transwomen so problematic?
Im sure there are some decent ones but thinking of all the transwomen with influence or a bit of fake, they seem to be massively over represented by the Fallon Foxes and Jess Bradleys, Aimee Challenor and Jane Faes of the world.
Why is that?
All the decent people need to be calling this out and cleaning their own house instead of throwing shit at jkr and other women.
But they hardly ever do.
Its a bad look.

MrGHardy · 17/06/2020 12:29

As far as I know though, most people in the scene think he's a cheat. And he hasn't fought for years. Irrelevant trying to gain attention.

blubellsarebells · 17/06/2020 12:29

Fake should say fame.
Fml

BatShite · 17/06/2020 12:44

Vile, but not surprising in the slightest.

AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 13:37

ahagwears yeah Pleska is an obnoxious Twitter gobshite
Tbh I don't think it matters that Fox isn't fighting any more. They deliberately set out to fight women despite having massive physical advantage, seriously hurt two opponents, and not only do they have no regrets they went out of their way to boast about how much they enjoyed bashing women. And they did this by tweeting at a woman who has disclosed experience of DV, in a thread which started with a tweet JKR sent to a child about their artwork. This is just the lowest of the low

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 13:39

How much more obvious do they need to make it that this is mostly about hurting women?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/06/2020 13:40

(Assuming there’s any difference between TRA and incels to begin with.)

Someone on Tumblr invented the term "transcel" for just that reason.

Freespeecher · 17/06/2020 13:43

Joe Rogan's spoken about this a few times. Essentially he couldn't get around his pointing out that a biological man shouldn't be able to go around beating the shit out if women only to be told "Hey, you're outta line".

(And this is before the latest tweet).

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQpQmNhya14