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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#AskDanielRadcliffe

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OunceOfFlounce · 15/06/2020 10:18

Just wondering if anyone's seen this on Twitter. Quite a funny, interesting thread, eg

#AskDanielRadcliffe When was the last time you showed solidarity with trans activists by dating a trans woman, and what steps are you taking to unlearn your genital preferences?

Is the first one that showed up when I clicked. Sorry if it's old news.

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DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 15/06/2020 22:08

Plus the US has removed trans peoples rights to health care.

Obama made a change, the courts immediately halted that change (so the change never actually occurred) and Trump reversed the (theoretical) change.

Thus US trans people’s material access to healthcare has not actually changed. You should read beyond a headline.

I’m not an American but if I were I would support Medicare for all (all means including trans people).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:09

Come on then, please put the Angela Davis argument as to why we shouldn't advocate for female rights.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/06/2020 22:10

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:12

You clearly don't like JK Rowling and resent her phenomenal success. Which is your prerogative. Not sure what the point of any of it is here though.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 15/06/2020 22:12

Such a shame he deleted his account Grin

JemimaShore · 15/06/2020 22:13

She can't be criticised for being so incredibly successful she earned all that money can she? Surely you're not arguing that?

I mean, you realise that women here support all victims of dv - regardless of whether we agree with their political views - don't you?

You're sounding spiteful and bitter now - I for one am pleased to have JK Rowling as a role model for my DD to look up to.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 15/06/2020 22:14

I really do not think you can advocate for gay people or BAME

We’re feminists. Feminism includes lesbians and women of colour.

Why would we advocate for gay and BAME people as a whole group? Feminism is about liberating women from patriarchy, not advocating for all the bits of patriarchy that aren’t run by heterosexual white men.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:14

Any woman can speak on women's rights. You, me, Angela Davis, JK Rowling. No one has more credibility when they're speaking about their own lived experience.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/06/2020 22:16

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:17

What a fantastic role model for girls. All children, in fact.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:18

Who has said that they don't matter? Not me.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 15/06/2020 22:18

I don’t think Smile has any idea how they come across, do they? They think they’re ablaze with righteous indignation and flŷing the flag for truth and social justice everywhere... no idea they’re coming across as irrationally ragey, misogynist, missing every point that anyone else makes and just... inchoherent. To put it kindly.

Illusion meets reality. Ouch.

Collidascope · 15/06/2020 22:19

Of course black trans rights matter... Who said they didn't?

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/06/2020 22:19

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TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 15/06/2020 22:20

I think I need someone to share a new recipe. Please.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/06/2020 22:20

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Gncq · 15/06/2020 22:20

"You have created a bogeyman"

Er... Women's spaces are for women, not people with penises.

There's nothing wrong with being a person with a penis, most people with penises are very lovely. They simply don't belong in women's spaces.

This is just a rehash of "feminists are man-haterz"

FantaOra · 15/06/2020 22:21

Angel Davis agrees that Black Trans rights matter...surely as feminists you have looked at this?

That's an incredibly insightful and actually quite penetrating question smile, you have clearly considered that very deeply. We had a Lisa on the board yesterday with some very acute observations on chauvinistic developments in the past decades.

You may know Lisa?

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 15/06/2020 22:21

@Smilethoyourheartisbreaking

How can I be mysgonist Talking? You are clearly far more enlightened than I
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JemimaShore · 15/06/2020 22:21

Smile - this may come as a shock to you. (Are you sitting down?) I believe black trans lives matter too.

I just don't agree that transwomen are women, and I believe that women's rights matter too - and women should be able to discuss their female biology, and how it shapes their lives, without being told by men/TRAs to "suck their dicks".

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 15/06/2020 22:23

surely as feminists you have looked at this?

The rights of female black trans people? Yes. Of course. Transmen are often left out of trans activism so it’s important feminists look out for them. Sending a transman to the male prison estate would be a terrible thing to do. As would preventing them from accessing appropriate reproductive care and screening for female cancers. It’s the main reason I don’t think sex markers on NHS records should be able to be changed.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:25

There's nothing wrong with being a person with a penis

Indeed, some of us even have them in the house with us Shock but I don't even want my one in female spaces with me. Privacy is a good thing.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/06/2020 22:25

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/06/2020 22:28

Which far right agenda would that be? Sex based rights for women and girls? Oh yes that's always been no 1 on the far right agenda. And JK Rowling, celebrated left wing liberal author, she's our leader.

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