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LangCleg

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dragongirlx · 21/01/2020 16:37

I am a long time lurker but infrequent poster here but I needed to bring this to everyone's attention.
I have found out that Mumsnet HQ have banned the fabulous LangCleg simply for repeatedly pointing out the repeated times coercive control has been used by the moderators to stop women talking.
I understand it started with a conversation when a post was deleted because she allegedly used a sweeping generalisation but they couldn't or wouldn't confirm the generalisation and when she challenged them they decided to ban her on the basis of previous comments.

So it now seems pointing out coercive control is now grounds for being banned, thus proving that coercive control is being used.

I for one would like @MumsnetHQ to provide an explanation here as this is really not on

(also taking bets on how long before the thread is deleted)

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youllhavehadyourtea · 21/01/2020 22:00

I salute Langcleg.

Madness mumsnet.

janeskettle · 21/01/2020 22:00

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FannyCann · 21/01/2020 22:00

I have learnt so much from knowledgeable posters on FWR, and Lang is one of the best. Always cuts to the chase and sees through the obfuscation. If excellent posters like Lang are banned we are all the poorer, especially Mumsnet which will become increasingly irrelevant.

Binterested · 21/01/2020 22:00

To be honest I also want an apology for the ‘shouting’ and ‘haranguing’ comments. MNHQ have really forgotten who their core audience is and businesses that do that always end up in trouble.

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 21/01/2020 22:01

Have come out of hibernation to express my sadness, frustration and fury at this decision by MN.

Was thinking of chucking in my membership but actually I might just start hanging out here again...

janeskettle · 21/01/2020 22:02

To be honest I also want an apology for the ‘shouting’ and ‘haranguing’ comments

Hear, hear.
Using those terms against women is sexist as fuck.

QuietlyLurkingintheCorner · 21/01/2020 22:02

Yep, also delurking to add my voice to the outrage and disappointment expressed on this thread. Stick another knife into free speech why don't you MN, it's dying in front of us anyway, right?

SoldiersinPetticoats · 21/01/2020 22:03

Hey monitors, you might be successful in getting some us silenced here but everyday we speak to many, many people in real life about these issues. And those many, many people speak to even more people and they’re not afraid anymore. Look at what happened to Jo Swinson when people started talking to her about this stuff in public.

Gin to Lang. She is one, but we are many. You can’t get us all.

DickKerrLadies · 21/01/2020 22:03

It's bizarre when you consider that those when those who report our posts come and actually engage with us, it's utterly clear they don't actually read what we're writing and consistently misrepresent our views. Often whilst openly admitting to trolling MN all the way.

Well, I say it's bizarre - it's not really, is it? I obviously couldn't say why though.

Thelnebriati · 21/01/2020 22:04

@HirooOnoda Please stop claiming that a line had been crossed; its been explained to you that is not what happened. We can't discuss it. So please play fair and stop making that claim.

ThePurported · 21/01/2020 22:05

Slowly, Gently; This is how a TERF is taken down

MNHQ, this is embarrassing. You chucked Lang out to appease a bunch of self-appointed witchfinders.
But how wonderful to see so many posting in solidarity on this thread. I'm holding up a lit Weetabix and singing Lang's name Wine

brendansbuddy · 21/01/2020 22:05

Please can we have some update from MNHQ about the reasons for banning Lang?

littlbrowndog · 21/01/2020 22:06

LANGCLEG FFS

what are you doing mumsnet

HarrietThePi · 21/01/2020 22:07

Wtf MN?? This is sinister.

STILLT · 21/01/2020 22:09

As a parent desperately concerned about how our gay offspring are being told they are #BornWrong its deeply concerning. Woke Homophobia, under the guise of inclusivity, is destabilising Gay males, and statistics show this is worse for parents of Lesbians. Politicians are woefully ignorant about what is happening to our young homosexuals.
This is the biggest fight of this mums life.

#safeguarding for our gay kids has been jettisoned.

littlecabbage · 21/01/2020 22:09

Wow, I am actually devastated to hear this news. LangCleg is/was such a calm, rational and intelligent poster. I found her posts invaluable.

For the first time, I am seriously concerned that MNHQ has fallen. I need to go and check out Spinster. I can't believe how free speech - not "hate"speech, but just the voicing of concerns for the safety of women and children - is being silenced.

This is a dark day for FWR.

janeskettle · 21/01/2020 22:10

STILLT

x 1000

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 21/01/2020 22:10

What? No.

On a site for women, women’s voices are censored for being forthright and honest? Because it hurts the feelings of men?

cactus2020 · 21/01/2020 22:10

Coercive control? Safeguarding? FWR? Aren't these key issues for our community? Come on HQ, help us here. At least outline transparently what it took for someone to be banned so we understand... Terrible hideous decision btw

RedHoodGirl · 21/01/2020 22:11

How about boycotting the website, deleting accounts and moving to another platform?

The problem is, we don’t know what the reason for deleting LangCleg’s account was? I’m sure the Admin’s know more than us and are acutely aware of the MNHQ terms of service.

ruby2020 · 21/01/2020 22:11

Good.

ThunderboltandLightning · 21/01/2020 22:11

Outrageous decision. The fact that the TRAs are crowing about it should tell MN all they need to know about just how wrong they are here.

janeskettle · 21/01/2020 22:11

'by parents, for advertisers and men'

Lifeinthelastlane · 21/01/2020 22:12

Wow. Not a good wow, a sad one that it has come to this.

Lifeinthelastlane · 21/01/2020 22:13

Janeskettle, you are forgetting the DM journos

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