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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker Interview

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wprice81 · 13/10/2019 23:23

Is anyone else aware that Posie is doing an interview with controversial youtuber, j.f. gariepy? didn't expect to see that...

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 14/10/2019 18:03

Oh, the dude is a shithead, no doubt about that, no matter how convinced his fangirl earlier in the thread may be that that's just how people are in Quebec.

Happydays365 · 14/10/2019 18:13

Atleast Posie is one of the few people brave enough to talk about grooming gangs. There is a shocking lack of that on this sub. Let’s just ignore thousands of young girls being raped because it’s wacist. Meanwhile Karen White is mentioned every three days. It’s just as bad as the Labour politicians who ignored it for years.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 18:15

It’s easier to vilify than respond, I get that.

It’s hard to look at things constructively that you may be part of (unconsciously of course, as I don’t know you and am not presuming anything about your character) It can be uncomfortable.

I think casting off things like white feminism as ‘just something ‘TRAs say’ speaks volume as to why someone like Posie has remained influential amongst some feminists despite various undeniably racist links.

LangCleg · 14/10/2019 18:16

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 14/10/2019 18:18

Shh, Lang, it's not nice to point these things out.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 18:19

I’m not a TRA lang care to respond to anything? Or is it easier to just discredit so You don’t have to think?

testing987654321 · 14/10/2019 18:19

Posie has remained influential amongst some feminists despite various undeniably racist links.

What racist links? Has Posie made racist statements?

zebrasdontwearbras · 14/10/2019 18:20

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zebrasdontwearbras · 14/10/2019 18:21

Posie's not racist - it's just yet another thing TRAs throw at her to discredit her.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 18:28

Ignoring the heritage foundation stuff earlier this year, who said they wanted to ‘drain the swamp of POC’...

She’s made several islamophobic and racist tweets, including saying Islam is a ‘convert or die non peaceful religion’

That we could blame ‘Pakistani Culture’ on a rape.

When Tommy robinson was arrested she said something like ‘ we can offend everyone except transwomen and men’

She made several comments about the hijab.

These are just from my head from when I last looked into her.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 18:29

TW and Muslims that should say

Creepster · 14/10/2019 18:31

I do not think Posie is significantly more or less racist than the average white Brit.
I also think it is inappropriate to accuse her when she is unable to respond. She's not hiding. Go tell her what you think of her for going around acting like a people.

Happydays365 · 14/10/2019 18:41

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Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 18:45

I haven’t accused her of anything.

I have said she made racist tweets and stated them (they will all be easily findable if you google search)

And of having racist links - heritage foundation and this guy being the two off the top of my head - who are both undeniably racist.

It shouldn’t be so difficult to discuss racism and feminism links. I call myself a feminist, and wouldn’t call myself a racist. It doesn’t mean that every feminist is a racist by any means. But to deny ‘white feminism’ exists is ridiculous.

I always knew what it was but couldn’t put my finger on it, it was someone on MN actually who taught me the term (a regular poster)

Misogyny is called out at every turn. You’re more than happy to call me a MRA, but when it comes to discussing racism? Brick wall.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 18:49

Honestly people like YOU are the reason this went on for so long. You care more about denying reality than children being raped. If you don’t admit the problem you can’t solve it. Are you going to pretend this statistic is one giant coincidence? Or maybe there is a problem?

Honestly, you sound ridiculous. I have said nothing of the sort. Everyone knows grooming gangs are predominantly Asian men and yes more should be done. Doesn’t give a free pass to be racist/islamaphobic

She was talking about a (singular rape) 90% of men on the sex offenders register are white.

LangCleg · 14/10/2019 19:02

Aaaaand....

quod erat demonstrandum

Let's all make a fuss about What Posie Did because we'd hate it if the "other side" made hay with it and, by so doing, attract the attention of the "other side" so that they can happily find something else to filibuster to death.

Well done. Self fulfilling prophecy.

Doobigetta · 14/10/2019 19:23

What Lang said, exactly that.

That guy was horrible though, so openly misogynist. And I did notice that although she did pick him up and refute his bullshit about women committing violent crimes and domestic abuse, Posie wasn’t as bullish with him as she has been against some others. She doesn’t really come out fighting until she feels personally attacked, I think.

IfNot · 14/10/2019 19:25

I don't think talking about the culture of mainly Pakistani men in the UK and how it can be detrimental to women IS racist though. It's a fact that there are towns in the North where a mysoginist culture is rife among a lot Asian men. If you were from one of the towns where it's a problem (I am) you would know this earlywalker. Maybe your problem is Southern Feminism?
I have a friend who is married to a UK Asian guy and she couldn't believe how backward the mentality was in the community of the town she had moved to (from India). It's well known and it's a big problem.
Also, not all Muslim women and girls wear hijab. It's a cultural expectation of certain sections of the population, not Muslims as a whole. You can't just not talk about this stuff -it affects women and girls and that matters. To me anyway.

Personally I think the idea of sectioning off different types of women from feminism as a whole is ridiculous. All women are opressed to varying degrees but for the same reason ( having a fanny)so all feminism is for all women.

And I absolutely agree that women on the right and the left need to talk together about the issue of self id as it affects all of us.
I feel like zebra about that particular man, and she put it better than me, but we all have to draw our own line I guess.

zebrasdontwearbras · 14/10/2019 19:33

IfNot - great post - I agree.

Pota2 · 14/10/2019 20:31

zebras I owe you an apology. I must have misinterpreted what you said above. Sorry!

zebrasdontwearbras · 14/10/2019 20:51

Not at all, Pota2 - my ramblings are easy to misunderstand Smile Wine

womanaf · 14/10/2019 21:08

If you don’t like what Posie is doing, do something else.

TinaBarrow · 14/10/2019 21:23

Black people, women and working class people have got to cross pollinate and come together to fight oppression. This "white feminism" insult is just old-fashioned divide and rule shite.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2019 22:18

I don’t use the phrase ‘white feminism’ to offend but I think the subject on this thread and the responses to it, perfectly showcase it.

I wont bother any more as talks of white feminism is always dismissed without discussion as an insult or MRA statement. If you have a second, this article is quite good:

www.bustle.com/p/what-is-white-feminism-here-are-7-sneaky-ways-it-shows-up-into-your-life-7921450

2BthatUnnoticed · 14/10/2019 22:44

I’m brown and I detest the phrase “white feminism.” It refers to the Sally Hines school of thought though (privileged, ID as “c*s” and despise WC women) so irrelevant here.

I thought PP was staunch WC (but married a guy with money) - is she actually posh?? Based on my extensive experience with posh English people (viz. heard the Queen on the radio once), PP doesn’t seem posh at all.

I’ve never heard of this guy, he sounds awful based on comments here, I’ll research when I have time.

My question: does he believe brown WC women should be legally compelled to touch penises and testicles against their will?