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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I think I will challenge this notice seen at local hospital

121 replies

NameChangeOctober · 08/10/2019 16:05

I saw this in the adolescent (includes under 16s) waiting room when attending a regular clinic this morning.
I mentioned it to the consultant (not his area) who suggested I email and he would pass it on, but hadn't looked at it properly himself.

I want to keep it very short and don't want to affect DS's care or the attitude of the staff towards me.

I thought I would challenge the use of "assigned at birth" and the sex chart being inappropriate (and daft)

I think I will challenge this notice seen at local hospital
I think I will challenge this notice seen at local hospital
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NameChangeOctober · 08/10/2019 16:06

Anybody around to help me word it succinctly and clearly?

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MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 08/10/2019 16:08

Not sure what they are trying to say is “gay Sex” but all seems very daft and I’ll thought out

MIdgebabe · 08/10/2019 16:11

No trans* and girl on the red sheet either.

NameChangeOctober · 08/10/2019 16:11

I showed the gay sex chart to DS who thinks it's either a challenge to check every box or somebody's bucket list!

How can 'girl and girl' have penis sex? Obviously the girls are not trans as that has a separate box.

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MamaMary · 08/10/2019 16:12

This was in an NHS hospital? And a doctor /medical practitioner hadn't noticed that there is a poster saying there are more than two sexes?

MamaMary · 08/10/2019 16:14

You need to challenge this yes.

nauticant · 08/10/2019 16:15

A girl and boy having a cuddle = gay sex, also them having sex with a penis is gay sex, and vaginal sex is too, and also anal sex, using sex toys, and oral sex.

Gay sex is any combination of the sexes doing most sexual acts.

Yep, that's homosexual erasure all right.

Butterymuffin · 08/10/2019 16:15

I don't understand what the gay sex one is saying at all. If it's meant to be reassuring and inclusive, I think it's failed.

NameChangeOctober · 08/10/2019 16:20

It's horrible isn't it? All due to the muddling of sexuality and gender identity.

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nauticant · 08/10/2019 16:22

I think someone has assumed that "inclusion" means that every intersection of every combination has to mean a default "yes". But because they've done this for ideological reasons they didn't stop to think what the "x" marks were actually saying.

In other words, signal but don't think. Thinking can lead to exclusion. Exclusion is bad. Therefore thinking is bad.

smemorata · 08/10/2019 16:24

I honestly have no idea what this poster is trying to say! I think you should ask them to explain it to you and see if anyone actually can.

HandsOffMyRights · 08/10/2019 16:27

What the hell?

Most doctors (with the exception of the Fool Ade and Cessen) should also know that sex, not gender, is recorded at birth, not assigned.

SarahTancredi · 08/10/2019 16:27

What on earth is it supposed to be saying Confused

BeanBag7 · 08/10/2019 16:27

Is this supposed to make teens less confused, because it's not working for me!

Girl & Boy vaginal sex = gay sex?
What exactly is "penis sex"?

If they want to have a "trans and boy" category surely there should also be a "trans and girl" category and/or a "trans and trans" category. Plus I thought it wasn't OK to call someone a "trans" as they have here.

Definitely challenge it but be expected to be eye rolled as not understanding the complex world of teenagers and gender.

WannabeGlamper · 08/10/2019 16:29

WTF is that gay sex poster trying to say 🤣

NameChangeOctober · 08/10/2019 16:29

Huge NHS teaching hospital.

I don't have anybody to get into a debate with as it's not really our doctor's business. He said he would have a look and also pass the concern on.

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IncrediblySadToo · 08/10/2019 16:30

WTAF.

It’s official - the world HAS gone mad.

NameChangeOctober · 08/10/2019 16:33

I think the gay sex poster is a relatively easy target.

I think it will be harder to challenge the more designed one.

There was more...

I think I will challenge this notice seen at local hospital
I think I will challenge this notice seen at local hospital
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LonginesPrime · 08/10/2019 16:33

OP, you could innocently ask for clarification on what it's meant to mean since someone presumably put the poster up to educate and inform. You could explain that you were confused.

I think that someone made the gay sex poster and was supposed to tick certain boxes only but got sidetracked and forgot to finish it off. Otherwise it's just batshit!

FlyingSquid · 08/10/2019 16:33

Does x on that poster mean 'yes it is gay sex', 'no it isn't', or 'Don't do it, kids'?

terryleather · 08/10/2019 16:35

This was in an NHS hospital? And a doctor /medical practitioner hadn't noticed that there is a poster saying there are more than two sexes?

This x 1000.

I've got a Sharpie in my bag and I'd be highly tempted to scrawl "FAKE NEWS" over that fucking bs poster.

Vaginal sex, anal sex and oral sex are mentioned so what is penis sex ?

Also as I understand that red poster, all sex appears to be gay sex???

Confused
Woofsaidtheladybird · 08/10/2019 16:36

Good grief.

I'd take it down if it was me.

And take it to the Chief Executive and complain

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HairyDogsOfThigh · 08/10/2019 16:36

When did girl and boy having sex (or a cuddle) become gay sex?
Also, "more than just male and female", nope, I don't think so. We have xy chromosomes (male) and xx chromosomes, (female) , no other combinations that i know of. We can certainly choose our gender, but we can't change our sex.

Soubriquet · 08/10/2019 16:36

I would ask if a boy and girl having gay sex could get pregnant Hmm

FlyingSquid · 08/10/2019 16:37

WTF: 'Bisexual = attracted to two genders, heterosexual = attracted to opposite gender, homosexual = attracted to same gender'

It doesn't mean that. Confused

And I thought MSM was mainstream media. I'm sure I'm not the only one who could get into some very muddled sentences there.