I think I will challenge this notice seen at local hospital

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I saw this in the adolescent (includes under 16s) waiting room when attending a regular clinic this morning.
I mentioned it to the consultant (not his area) who suggested I email and he would pass it on, but hadn't looked at it properly himself.

I want to keep it very short and don't want to affect DS's care or the attitude of the staff towards me.

I thought I would challenge the use of "assigned at birth" and the sex chart being inappropriate (and daft)

Oh dear, it seems I had gay sex with my mum earlier

Excellent work Sicario

Fucking hell those last set of posters were made by Brook, sometimes called the Brook Advisory Service. They do sexual health advice and care for under 25’s, contraception and abortion referral and lots of emotional support and all that good and necessary stuff.

What an absolute shower:

‘Gender refers to the way in which a person feels and thinks about themselves, and the way they dress, speak or move. This can be different to the ‘sex’ they were given at birth. In other words, you may feel female and have a penis, you may feel male and have a vulva or may feel like a mix of the two.’

www.brook.org.uk/topics/gender/

Why is ‘sex’ written in quote marks like it isn’t even a thing?
WTF is this about being ‘given a sex at birth’ -you get given a sex at the moment of conception.

Honestly how can any organisation provide any safe sexual health care, if they don’t believe in biological sex or biological facts?

"Sex you are given at birth" is Schrodinger's Baby.

It seems I've been having threeway gay sex with my two best friends for years. In pubs, coffee shops, on station platforms. Who knew...

How do the girl and girl have gay penis sex 🤣🤣🥇

Please can this hospital be named? DM me if necessary (can you DM on mumsnet? I dont use it very often). I am in various groups who would wish to take this up at Trust level. The information these posters contain is dangerously wrong. There is no 'assigned at birth' for a start, and that chart is utter gibberish, plus I understand that the author, Jamie Lawson, has 'form'.

@terryleather Yeah I think that's probably the point they were getting at, it's not weird to have "Gay Sex" It's just sex

@Flabuless what are these groups? Can one join such groups?

"How do the girl and girl have gay penis sex?"

You sound like one of those horrific transphobes who thinks a girl can't be born with a willy.

I apologise I don’t know what came over me

How do the girl and girl have gay penis sex
Obviously a girl born without a penis can have penis-sex with a girl with a penis, and also two girls born with a penis can have penis-sex with each other, and this is exactly the same as girls without a penis having sex with a dildo, either together sharing one, both with one each, or just on their own.
It's all exactly the same.

There are a number of (necessaioy secret, sadly) groups on FB, including a direct action one and a new but open one for Labour Party supporters called Rise Above Gender, which are trying to challenge gender stereotypes and the trans ideology so pervasive in our institutions, which have been Stonewalled to death.

@Qcng Not sure if you're being facetious and have accidentally got it on the nose but yeah you're 100% right either way, it's all the same

Qcng Not sure if you're being facetious and have accidentally got it on the nose but yeah you're 100% right either way, it's all the same

How can you possibly think those activities are the same? Haven't you ever had sex?

More people are autistic than are transgender.

Imagine being a young autistic teen, more likely to take things literally than most, and seeing that "cuddling" even between boys and girls is now "gay sex."

But hey, who cares about all the kids whose comprehension will be impacted. As long as some trans groomer in an office building is able to feel gender euphoria (this translates directly to "a boner"), then all's right with the world.

Yoo allmywhat I didn't know you could quote messages! That's super useful

And I think taking it literally is wildly missing the point of the poster which basically says it's all sex so let's not be mean about it

Have you ever had gay sex?

@WombOfOnesOwn fair enough cuddling is a bit of a stretch haha

Have you ever had gay sex?

Judging by that poster, most toddlers have had "gay sex." Sometimes it's useful for words to have actual meanings.

And no one is being "mean" when they point out that women using sex toys, and anal sex involving male-bodied people are entirely different activities. The differences are pretty important.

A boy and girl having vaginal sex is gay sex?

So what is "gay" about it, then?

hahaha guys I really think all it's trying to say is gay sex is just sex at the end of the day it's not that deep

@WombOfOnesOwn the happiness and joy that they bring to one another

OK, so it's a pun is the idea? All sex is "happy" sex?

And no one thinks something like that would ever be inappropriate in a hospital, where people come for legitimate information?

It's like having "tips for cold season" that say "bundle up and keep warm, dummy, turn the heat on, it's cold season!"

Emphasis on pun wombofonesown, I like it!

Nah it was just a retort to the scathing use of gay in quotation marks, I think it's just to make people feel more comfortable in whatever they choose to do and that it's not weird or odd

And I mean that is literally what you should do during cold season

No, that's what I'm saying:

Bundling up and staying warm won't help a family through cold season. Colds have nothing to do with the cold. Handwashing/sanitizing and covering your cough will.

So having a poster that said "Cold season tips, stay warm because haha, it's cold season" is equivalent to one saying "Gay sex is any sex that makes you happy."

When everything's gay sex, what is a person to make of the poster they see down the hall talking about how PrEP is important for gay sexually active men?

Saying "well, obviously everyone understands a cuddle isn't sex" doesn't improve it. In a hospital ward for adolescents, there's precious little that "everyone understands" about sex. You'd be absolutely shocked how many teenagers aren't quite sure about what types of sex lead to pregnancy, for instance.