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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Challenor showing off their 'new' birth certificate

602 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 01/08/2019 16:57

I will never accept this 'legal fiction, it is a travesty.

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 08/08/2019 21:25

Whois, to protect organisations ... that's ... logical, I suppose. But pretty bloody horrible.

' "someone would have to be very unlucky indeed to be caught on their first offence".'

:(

ScrimshawTheSecond · 08/08/2019 21:26

And littlecabbage, well done for your persistence. I am feeling rather jaded about the whole system. I hope there are lots of other checks in place as well as DBS/PVG .

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 09/08/2019 20:00

Thank you littlecabbage, this is scary as hell, it looks like they haven't even considered this have they!

MaverickSnoopy · 10/08/2019 19:25

thatwouldbe the pessimist in me says they absolutely have, they just hope that no one notices because it's unfathomable.

littlecabbage · 10/08/2019 19:41

I haven't heard back from my email to the journalist and can't do much more now as away on holiday, but will try ringing them early next week.

raisinsraisinsraisins · 10/08/2019 21:36

I wonder if there will be an increased number of discrimination court cases due to this. My DS had a summer job helping disabled children at a summer camp. This meant he helped them go to the toilet etc, and was only allowed to help the boys.

He went through a long application process for this job, the final stage was a face to face interview. A transgender person may have fulfilled all the requirements on paper but then failed at interview as the interviewer would have foreseen child protection complications. What will happen now with the implications of a new legal sex?

TemporaryPermanent · 11/08/2019 07:50

Well that would be illegal discrimination under the Equality Act though.

2BthatUnnoticed · 11/08/2019 08:03

raisins won’t it still go by bio sex though? So a TW would be assisting boys with toileting, and a TM would be assisting girls.

FormerMediocreMale · 11/08/2019 08:29

No it wouldnt temporary as even if a person has a grc they can be excluded. Personal care would be a valid reason for using bio sex.

littlecabbage · 12/08/2019 21:35

Just to update everyone, I have contacted another newspaper re this issue. Fingers crossed for a reply this time.....

Datun · 13/08/2019 00:48

Well done littlecabbage. Big thanks.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 13/08/2019 19:03

Thanks littlecabbage, fingers crossed - it's so disheartening that no one wants to touch this.

littlecabbage · 13/08/2019 21:00

Yes, I have now contacted one individual journalist and two prominent newspapers (by email) and still haven’t heard back. I assume they check their emails very frequently, and respond pretty quickly to anything they want to investigate, so not feeling too hopeful.

Any ideas anyone?

RJFirth · 13/08/2019 22:28

Nobody cares is the answer.

OhHolyJesus · 14/08/2019 09:49

Richard we care, hence the thread. Good to see you're still stalking MN and still have nothing better to do than fear women and there's just so many of of us...

littlecabbage · 14/08/2019 11:06

Richard, is it? Lovely to meet you. Thanks for the reminder - have just rung a major newspaper’s news desk and discussed it with them. Oh, and emailed my MP. Hmmm, who else can I contact?

(wanders off to ponder further)

GirlDownUnder · 14/08/2019 13:41

littlecabbage isn’t it when someone cares enough to comment that they don’t care Hmm

Hope you’re enjoying your break Brew

GirlDownUnder · 14/08/2019 13:43

..it odd when..

Opps 🤦‍♀️

littlecabbage · 14/08/2019 14:06

Quite, GirlDownUnder Grin

Kilbranan · 14/08/2019 14:40

Keep us updated cabbage we most definitely are interested

Datun · 14/08/2019 14:46

Who's Richard?

GirlDownUnder · 14/08/2019 14:53

Who's Richard?

@RJFirth on twitter

Enjoy Gin

Datun · 14/08/2019 14:59

Thanks Girl. I've never heard of him. And I'm not on twitter.

I'll keep the Gin tho - cheers!

GirlDownUnder · 14/08/2019 15:06

Ha! The Gin is not free Shock

Here’s the twitter profile if it helps...

(JRFirth posts here and twitter using the same name.)

Challenor showing off their 'new' birth certificate
GirlDownUnder · 14/08/2019 15:10

Opps ignore the “(JRFirth posts here and twitter using the same name.)‘ as redundant because already stated!

Clearly I should stop messing around here and go to sleep.

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