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Nathaniel Knight (partner of Aimee Challenor); worrying twitter admissions

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GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 02:58

Recently spotted on Twitter and reported today

@ bunifoosh
This is Aimee Challenor’s partner. This needs reported (to the police preferably).

mobile.twitter.com/bunifoosh/status/1150864993761595392

Bunifosh is posting inresponse to a thread started by Nathaniel Knight @ kharonalpua (Aimees’ partner)

mobile.twitter.com/kharonalpua/status/1150825601156227072

And lastly
Nathaniels’ post was because poster Whistleblower11097 posted on a current MN thread - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3635063-Challenor-on-LBC-this-morning?msgid=88567343
That post as been deleted

The content highlighted by bunifosh is worrying, but of greater concern is the thread from Nathaniel as it’s direct from the horses mouth, and admits to child rape fantasies, inappropriate communication with a minor, etc.

Aimee Challenor (from wiki)
Aimee Challenor (born 1 October 1997) is a British politician and transgender activist and former spokesperson for the Green Party of England and Wales. In 2017, she stood for election in Coventry South, receiving 1.3% of the votes. In 2018, her father, who had been serving as her election agent, was convicted and jailed for sexual offences against a child, leading to Challenor's suspension from the party during an investigation. She later resigned and is currently a member of the Liberal Democrats.

Aimee has been dragged into this as Nathaniel tweeted in the above linked thread
“So how can @ AimeeChallenor work with vulnerable teenagers when she's in a relationship with me? I don't have a violent bone in my body, and I have no interest in real children. In more than half of my lifetime, I have not "graduated" from a fetish for fantasy children to...”

The optics are not good for Aimee or the Liberal Democrats.

OP posts:
GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 18:26

Hey Glinner

I noticed the tweets deleted on Wednesday 17th, but his account was still up. Checking today and his account is suspended.

I posted screenshots on this thread of the original tweets and they were also archived.

Why, do you know something? Spill please Smile

OP posts:
Haworthia · 22/07/2019 18:42

I remember being glued to the original Aimee Challenor threads last August. And yet here we are nearly a year later... it’s horrifying that Aimee seems to have as much power and influence as ever.

Can no one see that Aimee is either emulating, or choosing partners that are also into, the paraphilias of Challenor Senior?

OhHolyJesus · 22/07/2019 19:28

@Glinner his account was set to private the same day or the day after I think but as Girl says is still active. The thread with his confession is archived here:

archive.li/PhxK7

OhHolyJesus · 22/07/2019 19:29

Similar job too Haworthia - in computers.

ZebrasAreBras · 22/07/2019 19:48

Haworthia, I think one could say that being embroiled with a paedophile once (making one your election agent) is unfortunate. Twice, sounds like carelessness. Or worse.

Aimee is not someone with the skills or judgement required to be involved with Stonewall policy-making. Or politics at all.

Glinner · 22/07/2019 22:07

Thanks for the answers!

FloatOn · 25/07/2019 12:06

@glinner I reported his thread and got a notification that it DID breach community standards, which id unbelievable in itself!

AngryFeminist · 25/07/2019 12:23

The 'children have agency' argument is a fucking boot to the face for those of us who had this exact line theown at us to justify our child sexual abuse. Age 13/14, I was abused by a man in my drama group. His grooming was fucking blatant, in front of other members, most adults. Some of them knew about the abuse. They said it was my fault, that I had led him on, that O wasn't 'a normal 13 year old', that I had chosen to 'have a relationship' with him. Including my own family.

The hatred society has for teenage girls is staggering, and this just underlines it.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 25/07/2019 12:32

I had a very similar experience, AngryFeminist. In my case I believed I was an equal partner in my abuse. That's why the phrase child prostitutes initially didn't bother me. It takes time to unpack all the shit you've internalised.

AngryFeminist · 25/07/2019 20:59

@Prawnofthepatriarchy solidarity. Spent quite a bit of time in therapy unpacking why I ended up with so many abusive men in dangerous situations with screwed up power dynamics. Funny that.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/07/2019 03:50

I was lucky. My DF and DBs are all lovely. I went from good men to dreadful abusive ones when I was young, like a sort of mad pinball machine. Finally I found a lovely bloke and settled down. The lessons I learned about relationships within the family held true and saved me.

WB11097 · 16/11/2019 11:42

Something new.

Nathaniel's Fur Affinity Gallery, as of 1st May 2015.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150501105348/www.furaffinity.net/gallery/kharonalpua/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20150501105348/www.furaffinity.net/gallery/kharonalpua/

So it turns out Nathaniel also put his stories on Fur Affinity. In a place Aimee could very easily see just by viewing his gallery.

Read Nathaniel's response to a comment where he's called out for using a 10-year-old character in this way. I'll post it below in a separate comment just incase it's too much for the moderators.

WB11097 · 16/11/2019 11:49

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150426135614/www.furaffinity.net/view/9688071/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20150426135614/www.furaffinity.net/view/9688071/

When called out, KharonAlpua replies:

"I wrote this ages ago. It was during my early period when i was just writing this stuff between chapters of the actual story of three ten years-old Pokemon Trainers on a journey like Ash's. It's old, crude, and blatantly unrealistic. That said, I have to recognize that for humans, sex is part of life. Masturbation can start early, and this means that it is possible, in the right contexts, for sex, even consensual sex, to occur. To me, at least, the age of participants in a story matters far less to me than their knowledge and consent, though sometimes a writer also has to portray things which are not his or her cup of tea. This story is one such story.

I am not into forced sex at any age. Rape is abhorrent and I should certainly hope that anybody who does enjoy rape fiction does not think that rape is an appropriate way to find any sort of fulfillment, sexual or otherwise. I can understand rape play -- but since that involves consent before the scene, it's play, not actual rape, and I believe that such a scene ought to usually be at the desire of the "victim," not the "attacker." This story wasn't written to get me off, but because I felt I needed to write it to push my skills as an author.

And this is an awfulyl long response. I'm not the type to cop out with "don't like, don't read" as my answer. But I will say this: "Don't like, don't fap." That's just a natural response. I've read stories that were clearly meant to be sexy, but not gotten a br, or lost it due to something I hate -- they weren't sexy for me.


- I (WB11097) put in these stars just incase you can't use that word on mumsnet.

Qcng · 16/11/2019 12:20

So if he's dismissing it as his "early" writing, involving underage sex and bestiality, what on earth is in his "more developed" writing?

WB11097 · 22/11/2019 11:11

Examples are on //www.archive.org.

I think the issue here is that while he says, "This story wasn't written to get me off", it's clearly written to get other people off. Getting people off using fictional children. Child characters.

No normal person would do that right? Something would click in to tell you it was wrong.

If you look at his (1st May 2015) favourites tab, when he had started his online relationship with Aimee, it's full of graphic furry porn.

And, while Aimee is still under investigation by the Lib Dems, he's been scrubbing the internet of stuff that would give context to those tweets made.

The site drawn attention to here on Mumsnet was quickly made private and has now has gone entirely; pandora.newgaeaentertainment.com with all it's stories has recently gone; he's gutted his fur affinity account and importantly deleted all his journal entries that gave context to a lot of things, etc. And all this stuff has been publicly on the internet for years.

Are the Liberal Democrats aware this stuff is being scrubbed while they're investigating Aimee? The thing with scrubbing is that while some of this stuff is backed up on //www.archive.org it becomes hard to find if you don't know the original URLs. So best look now while google searches provide URLs, even if the content behind them has been removed.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 22/11/2019 14:10

No normal person would do that right? Something would click in to tell you it was wrong.
No it's not normal.
Oh I wrote about a child being raped by an animal but it's only creative writing. He is disgusting and hiding behind Aimee and the trans umbrella. If he has noting to hide then why is he trying to clean up his history?

SugarPlumFairyCakes · 22/11/2019 15:10

I really hope he isn't 'cleaning up' his disgusting on-line activities in case he decides to move to a small two up, two down in Coventry after the marriage to AC in December......
I can't believe that AC would get residence and leave to work in Mitchigan, so unless they are going to have a different continent relationship....
Scary. This is why Prism, West Mercia Police and every one of AC's enablers need to examine their safe-guarding procedures.

WB11097 · 25/11/2019 11:00

Yes.

By the way, I also found this...

I'd recommend Jo Swinson, the Liberal Democrats, the Green Party, concerned parents of Prism kids, etc. take a detailed look and compare it with his tweets.

archive.ph/WTN8T

For context, a while back SoFurry changed their policy to:

"Artwork containing depictions of child characters, human or otherwise, placed in sexual situations are not allowed. All submissions that have child characters depicted should fall under the All Ages content level."

KharonAlpua had lots to say on the subject. Scoot down the list of his comments and just look at his replies (Yellow wolf in the green hoody - as usual)

e.g.,

"I do have socially unacceptable sexual fantasies, and one reason that I believe I do not act them out is because I have safe outlets in fiction and fantastical artwork for exploring those fantasies. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's research that letting pedophiles have fictional outlets makes them more likely to abuse kids, but I don't think we have solid research on either side for that issue."

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 25/11/2019 12:01

one reason that I believe I do not act them out is because I have safe outlets in fiction and fantastical artwork for exploring those fantasies.
Jesus christ. Does this mean, if he can't write stories "he could act then out"?

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 25/11/2019 12:01

*them

Datun · 25/11/2019 12:11

Jesus christ. Does this mean, if he can't write stories "he could act then out"?

Looks like it. Ugh.

And of course he can write them. Whenever he likes. He means 'have other people read them'.

AllYouGoodGoodPeople · 25/11/2019 12:12

Masturbation can start early, and this means that it is possible, in the right contexts, for sex, even consensual sex, to occur

Even consensual sex? "Even"?? The first "sex" being non-consensual then?

BeardedVulture · 25/11/2019 13:46

Why would AC want to marry someone with admitted paedophilic fantasies, especially given AC’s family history?

Regards where this lovely couple will end up- wasn’t AC investigated for terroristic threats? Wouldn’t that hamper any residency in America?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 25/11/2019 13:57

All of this is the stuff of nightmares.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/11/2019 14:14

though sometimes a writer also has to portray things which are not his or her cup of tea. This story is one such story.

This is bollocks. Nobody was holding a gun to Nathaniel's head telling him what to wrote, not was some mystical muse dictating his shitty fanfiction to him. He chose what he wanted to write about, and could have chosen something else. He wasn't working under a dire warning that the world would self destruct in T minus whatever if nobody wrote stupid stories about 10 year old Pokemon trainers having sex.

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