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Anthony Watson thinks prominent GC woman journalist is his PA

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Sitdownstandup · 17/03/2019 09:19

Twitter spat, obv.

The fallout from Anthony's recent initiative to arrange a letter from lots of men scolding women for disobedience. It's come to his attention that Helen Joyce of The Economist is non-compliant. He tweeted her employers about this stubborn refusal to fall into line, and then the next step was to demand a debate with her.

Said debate has now actually apparently been agreed to and arranged, but not before a series of tweets from him demanding that she sort complimentary tickets and perform admin tasks.

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1107035889501437960

It's well worth a read, all screenshotted here for those who are blocked. He's also found time to demand a debate with Graham Linehan, with whom he's very upset because Graham has told gays what to do despite not being one himself. The irony was just too much there.

twitter.com/boodleoops/status/1106998583222550528

All well worth a read for anyone wanting a giggle on a Sunday morning.

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Bluestitch · 17/03/2019 14:31

Her tweet got 2 whole likes though, and HJ's reply over 250. Everyone can see the truth, nobody is buying the manipulative bullshit anymore.

Justhadathought · 17/03/2019 14:54

Have to say my recent dialogues with gay men on the subject of trans activism and trans gender'ism have been very sobering. I used to think, and expect, gay men to be the friends of women; but many are most definitely not. So little real understanding and respect for women and their issues.

AncientLights · 17/03/2019 15:08

That Quilette essay is so good, gets everything in. Wish I could write like that.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/03/2019 15:21

If you mean LR, account is still there

Helen's still there

I didnt mean either of those Blush - I meant Joani Walsh Blush

hackmum · 17/03/2019 15:23

This is mildly interesting, from Guido: order-order.com/2016/04/14/labour-business-tsars-firm-incorporated-in-caymans/

OrchidInTheSun · 17/03/2019 15:36

Thanks hackmum- not surprised.

For anyone who can't be bothered to read the link, I give you the accompanying photo of the equalities tsar without comment

Anthony Watson thinks prominent GC woman journalist is his PA
zanahoria · 17/03/2019 15:43

Anthony Watson really going for the cheap shot now

" Scrolling through the timeline of @DawnButlerBren the relentless hate she receives (aside from the obvious sock puppets) has come from white people. To viciously attack a #BAME woman this way is reprehensible. "

StephsCaddy · 17/03/2019 15:44

He’s getting desperate now. What an arsehole.

zanahoria · 17/03/2019 16:03

I am sick of people on the diversity gravy train who only use these issues to bash political opponents.

JackyHolyoake · 17/03/2019 16:24

I'm thinking that this Watson and Riley situation is ripe for a talented person to write a script for:

www.captiongenerator.com/

Grin
hackmum · 17/03/2019 16:27

So just to clarify, the things that Anthony Watson doesn't understand:

  1. That staff journalists have absolutely nothing to do with events organised by their publication.
  1. That treating the finance editor of the Economist as your personal secretary is not a good look, especially if you are advising a major political party on equality.
  1. The concept of "setting a date".

Anything else?

Katvonchangedlightbulb · 17/03/2019 17:13

In the interests of fairness, at one point it reads to me like Helen does ask Anthony to DM her. However, given the tone the debate then takes, I totally understand why she'd then want to keep it public. He's absolutely awful; such a rude man.

And the fact that guy searched decades of glinner tweets! That's so tragic. Oh we don't love you now Glinner, you might have risked your entire career for us, but once you said "tits" Grin

I'm guessing his appointment to Labour's Equality Tsar is recent? Did they bring him in to try and fight back, the tide does seem to be changing ? It's so insane to have such a privileged white man in that position. Cheers Corbyn. Fighting for the few.

I'm confused at Dawn Bulters tweet about a timeline full of hate. Is she talking about the responses to Anthony's letter she retweeted? I forget everyone who disagrees is that is a Nazi bigot. I've been so long on the left I forget I'm a Nazi.

What's disagreeing with her got to do with her being BAME? I'm sure she does get racist comments but I didn't see anything like that on her timeline, on that day in question? Might have missed it?

Anthony Watson thinks prominent GC woman journalist is his PA
RedDogsBeg · 17/03/2019 17:33

I am sick to the back teeth of any criticism or disagreement being described as hate. This is the latest tactic to prevent opposing views being aired.

I too read DB's twitter and could not see a timeline full of hate - there was just plain old difference of opinion, plenty of facts to counter the woolly ideas/feelings rhetoric and pertinent questions surrounding the author of the letter and their generous funding of DB's LA jaunt none of which DB deigned worthy of a response.

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 17/03/2019 17:37

I saw a lot of actual hate (people defending the New Zealand attacks).

Rather puts into perspective someone disagreeing with you on Twitter. Sorry women are so uppity Dawn.

Justhadathought · 17/03/2019 17:39

Dawn Butler...honestly, how did she rise to her position? She's not the sharpest knife in the draw is she? (To be honest, Jeremy's front bench is not very impressive is it?). Saw Dawn Butler speaking in Westminster, when WPUK invited members in to ask questions. She, & Layla Moran - not impressed at all. Neither seemed to have much awareness at all of the wider and deeper implications of Self ID.

Bluestitch · 17/03/2019 17:40

It's a good tactic if somebody is bringing attention to a politician having an all expenses paid jolly by an individual they are now endorsing, to try to shut them up with accusations of hate. Only problem for Dawn is that a) people can read what responses she has had and b) that manipulative silencing tactic has been so overused that nobody is buying it anymore.

zanahoria · 17/03/2019 18:09

Dawn should know better. I am sure she is on the end of some nasty stuff but a person using terms like hate to describe legitimate criticism does have a nasrty Orwelian ring to it.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 17/03/2019 19:20

Keep going Anthony, you're getting noticed.

mobile.twitter.com/Martina/status/1106980378789609472

Martina Navratilova
@ Martina
This is despicable, is what it is...

deviant lesbian
@ yourSNisawful
Just throwing out that I live in a country where an obscenely rich man who gives advice to @ UKLabour, who sits on the board of @ glaad & when a woman (@ HJJoyceEcon) writes in defence of lesbians, he throws a tantrum tagging her employer trying to get her fired. This is normal.

Sitdownstandup · 18/03/2019 09:14

Deviant lesbian also had plenty more to say, this time on Linda Riley's contribution. Hilarious thread:

twitter.com/yourSNisawful/status/1107333737145090048

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BreakWindandFire · 18/03/2019 12:37

Tone is have an absolute meltdown on twitter.

He's still obsessed with Glinner who is not only a hateful misogynist but the Irish Trump of the transphobic movement. Tone is literally scared.

Not good enough Graham. You're only Trump. You need to get to Hitler. Grin

He's also DARVOing on Helen Joyce
You sought me out to debate you. You demanded your acolytes attend. Now you're falsely claiming bullying in order to peddle and drive up traffic to the transphobic writings you published in an well known alt-right website; Quillette:

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 18/03/2019 13:02

Tone's losing his shit isn't he? doesn't deal well with opposition then.

let's just take another look at this champion of laydees rights shall we?

i hope you're all very grateful for his outrage our our behalf at Glinner once using the word tits. I know I am. I had to retire to my fainting couch

Anthony Watson thinks prominent GC woman journalist is his PA
TowelNumber42 · 18/03/2019 18:31

He's calling that extremely well researched and factual Quillette article transphobic and alt-right?! Holy fuck. How can someone that biased be allowed to advise anyone in a position of responsibility?

BreakWindandFire · 18/03/2019 19:08

He now wants Helen Joyce and Debbie to denounce Glinner for saying rude words. He seems to have worked back through a decade of tweets and come up with a handful of sweary things.

I wonder if he's doing it himself or he's getting an assistant to do it?

MhairiV · 19/03/2019 10:48

It's hysterical watching Watson lose his mind over swear words. I'm not a massive fan of the c word but he's so obviously clueless on modern usage of it that he's starting to sound a lot like someone who has never been north of Luton. His head would explode up here, everybody's a c-word. Good or bad. 😄