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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Big Questions on now - is feminism in crisis?

105 replies

Lefty99 · 03/02/2019 11:38

To be discussed as next topic. BBC1.

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Beerflavourednipples · 03/02/2019 12:21

'Why do you never hear feminists talking about issues that affect men'?

Sheila Jeffrey's just laughed at this!

Cwenthryth · 03/02/2019 12:22

I appreciate Sheila J openly laughing at the ‘what about the menz’ Can’t believe that bloke just said “why is feminism so focused on females”. Erm......

AnyFucker · 03/02/2019 12:22

Only Sheila is talking sense here

She had to laugh at the young man saying "why do feminists include men's issues?"

FloraFox · 03/02/2019 12:22

If it wasn’t for Sheila Jeffreys this wouldn’t be worth watching.

walkingtheplank · 03/02/2019 12:26

Sheila Jeffreys is excellent.

walkingtheplank · 03/02/2019 12:27

And Dr Finn is off again.

Debaser12 · 03/02/2019 12:28

Oh my god, did that bloke actually just ask why feminism doesn't deal with men's issues.

AnyFucker · 03/02/2019 12:29

do they not sorry

walkingtheplank · 03/02/2019 12:29

It would have been interesting to see how Nicky Campbell would have controlled the debate.

zen1 · 03/02/2019 12:31

How disappointing - so many people not getting it.

OldCrone · 03/02/2019 12:31

On another thread it's being discussed that maybe we should talk about women's rights rather than feminism. Maybe then men would get the message that it's not about them. (Although you'd think the word 'feminism' would make it clear enough.)

FloraFox · 03/02/2019 12:31

The second best thing about this episode is that Nicky Campbell wasn't on it.

littlbrowndog · 03/02/2019 12:31

Sheila great
The rest oh my
There was a younger person in a jacket with short hair at front who had a son who seemed to be sensible.
The rest were just either apologising for being women or telling women who to include

As for Jane.

MogPlus · 03/02/2019 12:33

On another thread it's being discussed that maybe we should talk about women's rights rather than feminism.

I'm beginning to think we should go back to Women's Lib

AnyFucker · 03/02/2019 12:33

Yes the young person was ok too

The rest were a waste of bloody airwaves

Beerflavourednipples · 03/02/2019 12:34

On another thread it's being discussed that maybe we should talk about women's rights rather than feminism.

Yes. When people campaign for rights for people with disabilities, people don't say 'but what about the able bodied' do they?

A couple of the blokes in that audience were utterly clueless. Incredulous that feminists don't sort issues that affect men, what a wally! 😂

littlbrowndog · 03/02/2019 12:36

Aw cmon mog.
Women must be inclusive to the whole world and worry about the whole world
You are so exclusive 😂😂😂

OldCrone · 03/02/2019 12:43

Incredulous that feminists don't sort issues that affect men, what a wally!

Feminists are women.
Their mothers are women.
Therefore feminists should be like their mothers and look after them.

MogPlus · 03/02/2019 12:45

littlbrowndog Oh I know, I must be due for some reeducation now

ProfessoressWoland · 03/02/2019 12:50

Yeah, slow hand clap to the young person who asked why women's rights is about women and not men.
And as for Jane Fae "been a feminist pretty much all my life", thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374614-John-Ozimek-now-Jane-Fae-on-women-feminists-and-victims-of-pornographers

R0wantrees · 03/02/2019 12:57

Sheila Jeffreys!!

Sheila Jeffreys' speeches:
We Need To Talk, 'Inconvenient Women'
June 2018

'The invention of gender dysphoria' - Sheila Jeffreys hosted by We Need To Talk
NOvember 2017

'We Need To Talk About The GRA, York' (also with Linda Bellos)
10 Nov 2017

Sheila Jeffreys 'What Is Gender?'
19 Oct 2017
"3 minutes of radfem gold at the What Is Gender? talk in Mayfair on Wednesday 13 September. The event followed an attack on a 60 year old feminist humanist celebrant by three [male transpeople]"

(refers to assault of Maria Machlaclan at Speaker's Corner)

NeurotrashWarrior · 03/02/2019 13:01

Missed this bar the bit about sex work just as i was putting the tv on for my six year old...

Replace the word feminism with women's rights and everything makes much more sense.

If the programme had started from this question, it would be a very different debate (based on what I've read here.)

LangCleg · 03/02/2019 13:02

Dear goddess, what a shit show. I despair of the BBC.

I'm beginning to think we should go back to Women's Lib

Me too. With bells on.

woollysocksforwinter · 03/02/2019 13:04

You can still catch it on BBC live, by rewinding it a bit

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone

ErrolTheDragon · 03/02/2019 13:06

Maybe we need a T-shirt ( not sure what MN will do to the formatting of this, no preview on app):

feminism
/ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə)m/
noun
1 the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.
2 synonyms:
3 the women's movement, the feminist movement, women's liberation, female emancipation, women's rights

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