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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Recording of Mermaids training

334 replies

Imherefornow · 18/12/2018 15:40

twitter.com/MichaelConroy68/status/1074723989308801026?s=19

Apologies if this has already been posted. Did a quick search and didn't find anything.

Michael Conroy attended and recorded a mermaids training session. It's hair raising listening.

I believe that someone is working on transcribing this, which will hopefully make it easier to analyse. But wanted to post it to make sure it hadn't been missed.

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Melamin · 18/12/2018 19:43

I didn't hear anything that could be considered identifying. It was mostly the trainer rattling on. Didn't get to the end. It is a very uphill thing to listen to. So many layers of woo.

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 19:50

There may be.

Its not just whether they identify 'child X'
the content of the comment could also identify the person attending by what they may have said.

It seemed likely most were attending in a professional capacity.

Training such as this usually starts with reassurance 'there are no stupid questions' etc
It would not be fair to enable scrutiny of comments and questions made in good faith.

The focus should be solely on Mermaids training, information and guidance.

ShineOnHarvestMoon · 18/12/2018 20:03

Michael Conroy is a hero. He does such good work - and because he's a man, can stay under the radar. Unlike some of us ...

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 18/12/2018 20:04

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R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 20:11

I didn't listen carefully, its a general comment which I thought worth flagging up.

Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:17

It is something worth looking out for if we get access to another copy of the recording.

Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:23

Yes, every one was really quiet Hmm. It reminded me of the 'testimonials' in the church that advocates personal communication with God through baptism with the holy spirit, youth group that I misspent a thankfully short period of my youth attending. Wink

There is not much you can say after you have been told that light and dark is a spectrum though.

newtlover · 18/12/2018 20:27

AFAIK, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge and consent, and publishing such a recording would presumably be even more illegal (technical term)

WallyTheWasher · 18/12/2018 20:32

I don’t think it’s illegal to record someone talking. What offence would it be?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/12/2018 20:36

According to the Sun (who Id guess would know)..

www.thesun.co.uk/news/4093108/illegal-record-conversation-film-someone/

It looks like it may depend on the definition of a journalist (can you self ID?)

donquixotedelamancha · 18/12/2018 20:39

AFAIK, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge and consent, and publishing such a recording would presumably be even more illegal (technical term)

IANAL, but my understanding is that recording is not unlawful for personal use only, but sharing is. I believe there is a public interest exemption- which seems to have a strong argument in this case.

Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:42

You can't use a recording, made without the knowledge of those involved, in a court of law as evidence.

swerv · 18/12/2018 20:51

Just want to say what a legend to get this recorded and out there.

I can't believe this shit?

The Barbie : GI Joe dichotomy has blown my mind. Jelly babies???

Blown my mind - what is this training for?

The trainer is unbelievable -

She says

"those of us with breasts are we all the same bra size - I won't embarrass those with a lower appendage?"

How the fuck does this sexist training get lottery funded?

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 20:54

"where on the spectrum are you?"

Recording of Mermaids training
Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:54

I know - it is awful - just tried to listen again Confused

Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:56

Mental Sandpaper. I'm getting that Hmm

Katvonblackdeath · 18/12/2018 20:59

Thanks imherefornow

HerFemaleness · 18/12/2018 21:14

What was that about humans having any combinations of 42 chromosomes?

swerv · 18/12/2018 21:20

I am too scared to go on twitter but what is the training for? Who is it meant to benefit?

Yes I lost the will at the 42 chromosomes /combinations.

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 21:21

current thread which also has discussion of training session:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3452489-Mermaids-given-500-000-by-National-Lottery-Sunday-Times

DandelionsAreNotLions · 18/12/2018 21:22

From Mermaids professional training. Blah blah. Gender disphoria... Not mental illness. . . etc...World Health organisation put under Gender incongruence, which near where they put the intersex So. Like I was saying before yeah? Organisations and things seem to be putting them closer together. Yeah, so who knows where they'll end up.

Not even finished listening to the first 40 seconds and its already this bad!!!

No wonder they don't want any scrutiny . Holy Fuckery .

Melamin · 18/12/2018 21:23

It was for teachers, pastoral care staff.

(Obviously not physics or biology teachers Wink )

HerFemaleness · 18/12/2018 21:26

'Appropriating the religious beliefs of Native Americans. Appropriating the experiences of intersex people. It just gets better and better :/

BubonicBudgie · 18/12/2018 21:27

Thank goodness it wasn't just me who couldn't get past the first 40 seconds

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