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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Debbie Hayton and Posie Parker on Matthew Wright, TalkRadio between 1pm and 2pm **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 10:18

twitter.com/debbiehayton/status/1070231803087200256?s=21

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:28

Posie: GRC is a deceit in law. Sex and gender are confused and conflates as we were icky about the word sex. No definition in law for gender, wants to remove 2004 GRA. No legal right to change your sex.

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 05/12/2018 13:29

I cant listen at the moment, has Debbie explained why they haven't a GRC?

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:30

Going to discussion now.....
Host; birth certificate should reflect sex
Nick; it should reflect gender!

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:30

Nick; we are inventing a new lexicon!
Posie; cis is offensive

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Weezol · 05/12/2018 13:31

Nick - says sex and gender are two different things. Tying himself in knots trying to explain why this isn't okay when it comes to birth certificates.

calpop · 05/12/2018 13:32

God Debbie is brilliant - all this over fucking paper work!

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:32

Debbie; GRA was brought in to allow marriage, so now equal marriage act has made it superfluous

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Melamin · 05/12/2018 13:32

Yay Debbie - what use is the GRA.

happydappy2 · 05/12/2018 13:33

Going well so far....host saying birth certificate should reflect a babies sex, their gender identity is how they present as an adult.

Melamin · 05/12/2018 13:35

Birth certificate should totally reflect the birth - that is what it is for!

Do you think a lot of this would be different if we had 'identity' cards for the clowns who think their sex = gender = identity? (I know you can change your Dlicensce and passport and these serve as id here)

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:35

News and ad break.......

And we're back

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Weezol · 05/12/2018 13:35

Thus far, a reasonable and well mannered discussion. Debbie is such a voice of reason.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:36

Mentioning Posie's poster was branded as hate speech

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LangCleg · 05/12/2018 13:36

This person from Penis News is even more incoherent than the rest of them!

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:37

Host mentioning Rosa Freedman now

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R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 13:37

has Debbie explained why they haven't a GRC?

'Doesn't need one'

Debbie talked earlier about having made 'a meaningful transition' could have an 'F' on passport.

re passports, as this is primarily supposed to be a marker of sex and as a passport is a legal representation of one country to another re one of its citizen's when travelling (rather than an internal method of ID) I have for a while seen the ease at which this is changed as potentially problematic. It is a matter of security etc. Passports alow for additional relevent information to be included within the passport on a specific page. I wonder if gender identity shouldn't be included there & the sex marker be as it claims

Weezol · 05/12/2018 13:37

Posie's Women poster! The abuse of Rosa! The host is all over this.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:37

Posie; let the adults take over, stop letting children (university students) take over what we can talk about!

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 05/12/2018 13:38

Thus far, a reasonable and well mannered discussion. Debbie is such a voice of reason.

It's frustrating not being able to hear. If Debbie is against the GRA, does that mean Debbie is in favour of self id?

littlbrowndog · 05/12/2018 13:38

That’s not a high bar Lang

Threewheeler1 · 05/12/2018 13:38

Matthew really not getting the toilet thing.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:38

Posie; toilets, 90% of attacks in changing rooms and toilets are in unisex facilities

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Threewheeler1 · 05/12/2018 13:39

Maybe Matthew is getting the toilet thing.
Nick no.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:39

Nick; butch lesbians have been told to use the men's toilet

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Weezol · 05/12/2018 13:40

Little slip from Nick - said 'women' and quickly corrected it to 'cis women'.

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