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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Twitter bans misgendering and deadnaming

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TheChampagneGalop · 24/11/2018 16:51

www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/11/social-media-divided-on-twitter-s-ban-of-misgendering-and-deadnaming.html

What a great way to protect sex offenders who want to hide their past, and to get rid of feminists.

Right after Wordpress suddenly added that to their rules as well:
4thwavenow.com/2018/11/17/wordpress-dumps-gendertrender-gallus-mag-responds/

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QuietContraryMary · 25/11/2018 18:13

These are the sort of people that Twitter are protecting
valleywag.gawker.com/respected-twitter-engineer-dana-mccallum-charged-with-r-1562193427

(dead name Dana Contreras)

VickyEadie · 25/11/2018 18:27

Incidentally, one of the -probably intended - consequences of a ban on dead naming is the fact that it covers up the fact that every one of these formerly male athletes were a bit crap as male athletes... thus covering up the very thing that gives the lie to the claim that "it's just that transwomen have a natural advantage, like certain ethnic groups or body types"

Correct. TRAs and their acolytes are already pushing the lie that TW have "no innate advantage" and can even produce spurious articles arguing this (on no scientific basis at all, of course).

R0wantrees · 25/11/2018 18:28

Conatus News tweet

Twitter bans misgendering and deadnaming
NotANotMan · 25/11/2018 18:30

I've been permanently suspended for tweeting (months ago before the new TOCs) that Ashton challenor is David Challenor's son. I am permanently banned for using Ashton Challenor's original legal name.

VickyEadie · 25/11/2018 18:32

Has it reached the stage on Twitter yet where a well known, recorded historical event such as the American athlete Bruce Jenner winning the Olympic gold medal for the decathlon cannot be mentioned?

R0wantrees · 25/11/2018 19:05

Open Letter to Martha Lane Fox, Twitter
5th May 2018
Fairplay for Women
"This is a letter to Martha Lane Fox, the entrepreneur and feminist who sits on the board of Twitter. We write to her in the wake of mass deletions from Twitter of gender critical feminists who in many cases have had their IP addresses and phone numbers blocked so that they cannot re-join Twitter.

Transactivists have recently stepped up a concerted campaign to get feminists banned from every platform where they can speak out against the dangerous dogma of trans ideology and stand up for women’s rights.

Women are being told they have violated Twitter rules against hateful conduct by simply stating biological and legal facts. Women must not be shamed or silenced for speaking the reality.

Dear Martha,

Women are being silenced. Women like us.

We are are mothers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers, members of the armed forces, unemployed, disabled, lesbians, married, single, wealthy, poor, Scottish, English, Welsh and Irish. We are liberal minded women, committed to women’s rights, and social justice. We have fought for reproductive rights, gay rights, spent our lifetimes speaking up for women and against male violence and working to change the systems and structures that oppress us.

And now, we are being silenced.
By whom, you might ask?
Well, by you, for a start.

Women use Twitter to speak out about things that matter to them. In recent weeks, for example, we’ve seen women unite in speaking up for women in Ireland using the #HomeToVote and #repealthe8th tags. It has been wonderful to see.

Feminists also use Twitter to speak about another issue that threatens to erode not only our hard won rights, spaces and services, but the very definition of who we are. Transactivism.

This misogynistic, aggressive, violent movement, that has been embraced by the hard Left as the latest civil rights cause, has seen males colonise womanhood and hijack feminism for its own purposes.

Online, women are threatened with violence for saying things that should not be controversial, but have become so. For saying that males cannot become females. For saying that women do not have penises. For saying that women’s spaces such as refuges should be safe havens for women only.

Offline we are silenced by politicians, who dismiss our concerns as hysteria, and who refuse to listen. By journalists, who twist our words and reframe them as hate speech and bigotry. By transactivists, who bully venues who try to host our meetings into cancelling, and who turn up at our meetings with masks and dogs, block us from entering us and assault us.

Not only that, women are being told that to talk about their biology is transphobic. That we must refer to ourselves as menstruators, uterus havers, pregnant people. And if we do not comply , we will be punched, that we deserve to be punched. That we are terfs, who should die in a fire, choke on a ladydick, be beaten and abused. Go to www.terfisaslur.com if you do not believe me.

This is a concerted attack on women’s free speech. The words we use to describe ourselves, our bodies, our biology and our experiences as women are becoming unsayable.

And the worst thing? The platform on whose board you sit not only allows these threats and abuse to go on, but women who point out basic, incontrovertible biological facts are being banned from Twitter for speaking the truth. For saying that men are not women. For refusing to lie.

Women have been silenced since the beginning of time when we try to stand up for their rights. Today we ask you, a feminist and woman who cares about women’s rights, to use your influence to stop this. Stop allowing bullying men to police our language, threaten us and abuse us. Stop silencing women for speaking the truth.

Future generations will surely judge those who were complicit in this silencing of women who spoke only the truth, and who spoke up for their rights. We ask you today to use your voice to speak out against this new wave of misogyny and to stand up for women when we are being deprived of a platform from which to speak the truth."

fairplayforwomen.com/martha/

This gained some media attention,

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3262686-BBC-Report-Twitter-bans-women-against-trans-ideology-say-feminists

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3258983-Miranda-Yardley-permanently-banned-from-Twitter
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3258453-Permanent-Ban-from-Twitter-for-Hate-Speech

sanluca · 25/11/2018 19:26

Verbeena, so what do you think about the threats and doxxing on Twitter? What about all the 'Terfs, die'? What about the porn? What about the fact Twitter does not see sex as a reason for hate speech?

Do you think Twitter is a one sided in its tolerance of what people say? And if so what do you think the reason for this is?

VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 19:31

Of course I don't think any doxxing or threats is acceptable, no right minded person would think that was an OK thing to do.

R0wantrees · 25/11/2018 19:32

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R0wantrees · 25/11/2018 19:34

there is a petition started in support of Meghan Murphy:

www.change.org/p/twitter-re-instate-meghan-murphy

sanluca · 25/11/2018 19:37

So why does Twitter let those stand? No sane person would do that, yet Twitter lets all sorts stand, especially those aimed at women, but say something like women don't have penises and off you go. How can that be right?

VickyEadie · 25/11/2018 19:55

So why does Twitter let those stand? No sane person would do that, yet Twitter lets all sorts stand, especially those aimed at women, but say something like women don't have penises and off you go. How can that be right?

Indeed. The doublethink is only matched by the double standards.

kaitlinktm · 25/11/2018 20:20

Hateful conduct policy
Hateful conduct: You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.

Sorry if I have missed something, but I was wondering why sex isn't included here? Confused

deepwatersolo · 25/11/2018 20:41

So’die in a fire, TERF‘ is still fine then?

Lacypants · 25/11/2018 20:42

This is all such bullshit. Not indulging people's preferences is not hate crime.

If I call a woman a man, it's not hate speech.
But if I call a transwoman a man, it is a hate crime.

Hmm
VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 20:43

Of course it's not OK, deepwatersolo, don't think anyone has said otherwise?

arranfan · 25/11/2018 20:46

So, Conatus News has been suspended for satire etc:

twitter.com/Fisher_Download/status/1066780126078210048

deepwatersolo · 25/11/2018 20:52

Well, I never heard anyone was permanently banned for it. So I just wondered if it is still ok or if this now changed with recent policy updates.

VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 20:59

Well, people should be banned for that as well if they're not.

birdsdestiny · 25/11/2018 21:00

Thanks for the link to the petition Rowan.

RJFirth · 25/11/2018 21:01

About time Twitter cleaned house and dropped the transphobic bigots into the digital abyss.

FermatsTheorem · 25/11/2018 21:03

What's your position on the tweets threatening rape and death by fire to "TERFs", RJ?

ChewyLouie · 25/11/2018 21:05

R0wantees thanks for the conatus news tweet 😁, am reading their website - some great articles

R0wantrees · 25/11/2018 21:07

So, Conatus News has been suspended for satire etc:

Twitter bans misgendering and deadnaming
rightreckoner · 25/11/2018 21:08

Signed the petition.

What the fuck is going on ?

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