Trans Porn (she-cock, she-male, etc.)

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

Recently I had two encounters with trans porn. One was on here when a trans poster introduced the word 'she-cock' (I think it was) and another was when I tripped over someone IRL who writes trans porn. I've also been chatting with lesbian women who have left the 'queer' scene because they don't feel safe and a couple of gay men who have left because 'kink' and 'fetish has replaced 'gay' under the label of 'queer', which has got so broad that it includes almost anyone these days (but obviously excludes a lot too). I got curious.

Anyway, I took one for the team and did some research. I was actually shocked at what I saw - and I'm not (that) naive. I was shocked at the content and at the prevalence. I was disturbed because much of this porn is produced by individuals (amateur) and distributed on private twitter accounts and the like (from what I can tell it's very 'Jess Bradley' - the individuals concerned posting not for money but because they get off on exhibitionism.

This is NSFW - but it's one example

twitter.com/lisadumonde?lang=en

Here's another (equally NSFW)

www.reddit.com/r/transporn/.

Obviously, there are also copious commercial sites - pornhub and the like.

These are not individuals who are dysphoric though, from what I can see. They are individuals who get off on having tits and a cock and from seeing other individuals with tits and cock.

Disturbingly, when I looked up 'how to write trans porn', I found site after site that was more about fetish and kink than anything else - like this one www.sugarbutch.net/2015/11/best-queer-sex-blogs/ and quite a few like this one NSFW queer-oranges.tumblr.com/post/57189374716/tips-on-writing-porn-with-a-trans-character-in-it whre the main theme was 'acceptance' (the partner 'not knowing' but having sex anyway - and, obviously, enjoying it much more than ever before).

This leads me to a few tentative thoughts. One - I think we should introduce such porn to MPs whrn discussing self ID. Second, what Stonewall and others are doing by including 'kink' in with traditionally oppressed sexual minorities is really quite dangerous. Third, I really don't want to share my intimate spaces (toilets, changerooms) with some of the voyeur individuals above. Not that I'm advertising my own post :), but I've also posted about Planet Fitness and how the trans individual in the changeroom wasn't even using the gym at the time and also described herself thusly on social media

"I will be a male Slut-in-training on a leash held my mistress, Madame Domino, with a mask made of 2 pair of black panties covering my face and most of my head under a lurid black/red wig, with my ankles, knees and wrists tied together so I can only hobble helplessly in her wake…"

Thoughts?

Second that

"Male sexuality is a mess.".

This, really.

Fucking hell doedoe90303811. I hear ya.

I've heard it argued several times that transwomen are not a danger to bio women because they have either had bottom surgery or if the do retain their penis, it will be shrivelled and impotent due to the female hormones.

Those videos prove otherwise. Some of those men must have had hormones and they're clearly in full working order.

doedoe Great post. Though I'm sure that we need the hash tag not all trans.

WHY did I Google non standard vaginoplasty. Eye bleach please!

Me too. Dearie me.

Incidentally futanari is a whole genre of anime (or hentai) porn where the cartoon characters I sound like my nana have ample bosoms and massive penises

Safe ish link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futanari

I'm broadminded but I've managed to avoid the Lovecraftian horrors of transporn.

There Are Things We Are Not Meant To Know.

Annie:the point is not the porn. The point is the lack of dysphoria.

I have never even seen any standard porn, I know I have lived a sheltered life. Not really, I just have always thought it degrading on the women taking part.

I am not even going to look at this whole heap of new horrors. Saints preserve us. The first thing I knew about anything like this was talking to a man on t'internet web who liked to dress as a little girl 'not paedophilia thought' he was at pains to tell me. So we go from dressing as little girls, to dressing as children's toys wearing nappies, and they think that is perfectly fine? And they also think we are all dumb. Obviously our pink brains are not clever enough to draw the dots. Fuckwits.

Good post doe
Current internet culture is telling kids they mustn't kinkshame, it's the worst.
Look at this gem from tumblr - is from someone asking if there was a Discord chat about a videogame (a normal one, not porn) and this was the answer about the rules for the chat.

This is what self id is all about really though isn't it, man can identify as women, man can identify as 14 year old girl, man can identify as baby, and access all areas. It really has got f* all to do with the small proportion of trans individuals that really don't feel right in their sexed bodies.

Amazing post Doe

The problem with men in terms of their sexuality is that they have too much free time on their hands to indulge themselves because it's women that do all the childcare, wifework, domestic chores, for most men work is just a continuation of school. Men have opportunity as they often 'work late', whereas women don't as we are picking kids up from school.

Thanks from me, too, doedoe90303811, hits nail on the head.

Where do we go from here, though? It's all a bit depressing.

" man can identify as 14 year old girl,"

Yes there was Gary Cooper who 'pretended' to be a girl called Carrie Cooper to rape.

Now we are told he IS a girl called Carrie, as that's his name and he IS a 'trans woman'.

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/littlehey-prison-paedophiles-cambridgeshire-cooper-15108328

It's an insult to the victims of these men that they can go from 'pretending' to get that pretence validated by the law & prison service.

Btw that is indeed an excellent post from doe

And had not heard of R v Brown case - would be interested to see how that reads across to all these cases of women being strangled by male partners "as a sex game gone wrong"

The problem with men in terms of their sexuality is that they have too much free time on their hands

Ummm, I don't think that's why. I'm a sahm, I have lots of free time on my hands. I don't decided to fill that time with perverse sex. I tend to sew or do some gardening.

Yes, great post Doe!

Still reading through all responses ...

Another thanks to Doe for that post. Is there any info on what proportion of men looking at this staff actually are autistic or not NT in some way? Given the nature of what they’re looking at I’m guessing not. To me, these men come across as typical incels rather than necessarily having ASD although there is an overlap between the two I suppose.

great post, Doe

And as to what man might want to stick his penis into a hole created from a scrotum with a penis still intact, well, that's not the worst I've read today. This man from Georgia kept his own deceased mother in the freezer and had sex with her corpse

''Anything different-colored, different nose, ass, anything, man has to fuck it or die trying.''

• And I Awoke and Found Me Here on the Cold Hill’s Side by James Tiptree Jr

(Or Alice Sheldon. Not trans - just used a male pseudonym.)

So the conclusion I draw from the blog Lang linked to is that many men hate women so much that the only way they can masturbate to the idea of sex with a woman and not have it involve brutality is if the "woman" has a penis.
Possibly. I have another hypothesis. These men are collectors. Obsessed collectors of porn, anime figurines, whatever. It's fairly common. What do the trans women in porn have that women don't? Rarity value. If there were as many trans women in porn, and therefore as much trans woman porn as woman porn, the urge for novelty would mean more violent porn involving trans women.
WRT gay porn, there's possibly less of that pent up sexual anger, as even unattractive men can find a man to have sex with online. Whereas women are more discerning, and tend not to use hookup sites or apps. There are exceptions to the rule, but from what I've heard hookup sites aimed at straight people are either a sausage fest or full of bots pretending to be real women.
So no "incel rage" in gay men, maybe?

Bloody hell, Oleanna. Anyone up for Women's Island?

Good grief that is disgusting.

I sincerely hope nobody checks my internet history any time soon!!