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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"After some very moving contributions, TUC unanimously supports gender self-declaration"

238 replies

R0wantrees · 11/09/2018 14:45

Comment by Ian Murch, Treasurer at National Union Of Teachers section of National Education Union

twitter.com/ianmurch/status/1039470003920293888

Lucy Masood:
"Proud of the FBU and PaulEmbery for ensuring that we did not vote to support the GRA Self ID resolution at the TUC today. The FBU cares and listens to its female members"

twitter.com/luluchops1/status/1039475527139164160

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 11/09/2018 14:54

We need a new social and political union of our own. None of these fuckers represent us Angry

theOtherPamAyres · 11/09/2018 14:58

The FBU abstained.

Fence sitting cowards.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 11/09/2018 14:59

I'd vote for you, Tallulah

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 11/09/2018 15:12

So the TUC read about self id transperson Karen white, the crimes they commited and the fact that they were placed in a female prison, and don't think that's a problem. The TUC support the rape of women in prison?

VickyEadie · 11/09/2018 15:15

So the TUC read about self id transperson Karen white, the crimes they commited and the fact that they were placed in a female prison, and don't think that's a problem. The TUC support the rape of women in prison?

Yep.

NameChangedAgain18 · 11/09/2018 15:18

Does anyone know if UCU took part in this vote? If so, I'm resigning my membership.

Ereshkigal · 11/09/2018 15:19

How can it be unanimous if the FBU abstained?

Movablefeast · 11/09/2018 15:20

This ideology is brainwashing the entire country and women and girls are being erased. In the future every position of power that was held by a woman will be held by a self-iding man.

Ereshkigal · 11/09/2018 15:21

I wonder what they would have done if they'd had some "moving contributions" from female rape victims, women sacked for being pregnant and left without any support etc and generally considered other issues where women are disadvantaged.

I can guess.

bzzbeebzz · 11/09/2018 15:22

How utterly depressing.

VickyEadie · 11/09/2018 15:22

"Moving" = "stunning and brave". Presumably.

arranfan · 11/09/2018 15:25

NameChangedAgain18 - UCU is present so they must have voted/abstained. Maybe a tweet to them might clarify?

twitter.com/ucu

USU President presenting a motion "challenging the politics of hate":

twitter.com/illdoitanyway/status/1039475998201442304

NameChangedAgain18 · 11/09/2018 15:30

I'm not on Twitter, arranfan - but thanks for that link. From that, it seems that UCU did vote to support self-ID (the person has tweeted about the vote). They didn't think to consult their female members. They can go and fuck themselves. I'm not paying £26 a month to a union that doesn't represent me.

LangCleg · 11/09/2018 15:32

We need a new social and political union of our own. None of these fuckers represent us

As Lisa Muggeridge says, the public sector unions stopped representing working class, low paid and public sector women long since. All in the service of triangulating on Labour Party policy. This is just the last in a long line of betrayals.

You're right. We need an active women's union.

littlbrowndog · 11/09/2018 15:34

Never trusted them anyroads. Run by men for men

littlbrowndog · 11/09/2018 15:35

And they get massive wages

Ereshkigal · 11/09/2018 15:36

Agree that the unions are a huge boys club.

Ereshkigal · 11/09/2018 15:37

You're right. We need an active women's union.

The way it's going we're going to have to form an entire parallel infrastructure.

arranfan · 11/09/2018 15:39

A century on, and we need Women's Social & Political Union again

Trinity1976 · 11/09/2018 15:49

It's absurd that a few months ago we were celebrating 100 years since women got the vote and now it's like "OK ladies, we humoured you for 100 years, but you've had your fun now".

VickyEadie · 11/09/2018 15:51

It's absurd that a few months ago we were celebrating 100 years since women got the vote and now it's like "OK ladies, we humoured you for 100 years, but you've had your fun now".

I see it as a bit more sinister than that. More like "Time for you to learn that we're in charge and you're going to really regret thinking you had any rights at all, much less the right to safety..."

Knicknackpaddyflak · 11/09/2018 15:51

So basically a whole group of stunning and brave sob stories were told, editing out all but that agenda and that view point, and people were immediately asked to vote.

Not surprising they got a unanimous, unthinking, sentimental gesture of support then.

Ridiculous one sidedness. Particularly considering the TRA lobby are petrified of allowing any GC voice to speak (because they have an effect) while GC voices are delighted for as many TRAs to speak as possible alongside them - largely because they usually illustrate precisely what GC people need to point out as a Fucking Great Huge Problem With This Shiny Happy People Illusion.

Predictable response: a lot of the membership will be livid, they'll realise they made a major mistake, they wont be able to back track because of public embarrassment and they will look like idiots. Alongside the Green Party and the NSPCC who have tripped neatly down this black hole. You'd think people would start to catch on.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 11/09/2018 15:53

I swear, every day I think less 'sinister' than 'Jesus Christ the people running the country seriously are this thick !!!!'

R0wantrees · 11/09/2018 15:59

Pilgrim Tucker:

"Trade unions policies on trans self id have been designed exclusively by their LGBT committees, without proper engagement of wider membership, or even the womens committees. Explains the vote at TUC today. (Apparently the cracks in this are beginning to show behind the scenes..)"

twitter.com/PilgrimTucker/status/1039527559162220544

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GenderApostate · 11/09/2018 16:05

So, the NEU voted for this, but Kiri Tunks is the President of the NEU. Confused

Are the majority of teachers Women?