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Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 26/08/2018 02:36

"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

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BeyondRadicalisationPortal · 26/08/2018 20:44

Given Aimee had an inguinal hernia fixed - something I have had myself - as well as having an ASD (again, snap), along with mysterious CFS type illnesses throughout the family, personally I'm wondering about EDS.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 26/08/2018 20:44

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lowtide · 26/08/2018 20:45

How do you find these things on the interweb
Anyway. The more that’s posted the sadder I feel for anyone that’s come into contact with that vile man.
What Aimee has done is wrong, but the strong denial is not unique.

PositivelyPERF · 26/08/2018 20:46

If, and I mean if, it turned out that Challenor senior was abused as a child, would all those excusing Challenor junior supporting his father, feel the same sympathy towards Challenor senior? Would you have sympathy for this monster that raped and tortured this little girl?

PositivelyPERF · 26/08/2018 20:47

I mean ‘supporting their father’

BeyondRadicalisationPortal · 26/08/2018 20:49

Low - a lot of time falling down google-holes!!

Nothingbutagoodtime · 26/08/2018 20:49

I agree Alice

lowtide · 26/08/2018 20:49

Aimee is not a sexual predator or abuser.
She’s aligned herself to a cause and has not really gone about it in the best of ways. But I imagine she’s got a lot of issues, she clearly believes a certain narrative and I hope that all of this coming out makes her a more compassionate human.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 20:50

Note that Aimee apparently was given a morphine overdose for the hernia op as a baby. But this was described by the council as an 'alleged morphine overdose'. Except it was ACTUAL morphine overdose, as maintained all along by TC.

This rather tenuous point appears to have been key in dispelling the impression that TC was subjecting her family to numerous imagined illnesses, and getting the kids returned in 2010.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 20:52

This TC's qualification to be a Reverend (she filled in an online form)

ulc.net/index.php?page=minister_data&id=22331

lowtide · 26/08/2018 20:57

Jesus that’s one google hole!

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 26/08/2018 20:57

No, Aimee is not a sexual abuser like the father.

But, Aimee has campaigned to expel women from the party, put injunctions on other party members, provided technological means to harass, stalk and dox others. Aimee has put some women in real physical or economic (threat to jobs etc) danger.

At some stage an adult stops getting a free pass on this.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/08/2018 21:00

According to this:

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/disabled-coventry-mum-step-out-3091924

Tina has "spinal degenerative disease"

lillyputin · 26/08/2018 21:02

I am beyond horrified with DC case, conduct of AC. But beyond anything else I am horrified by the position of the Green Party which believes it is appropriate to “respect” privacy and “support” AC given her role in appointing her charged rapist and torturer father. WTF is that all about??

SingeBuggerCack · 26/08/2018 21:03

And chose to side with a child rapist and abuser for years, whilst simultaneously campaigning aggressively to end sex-based protections for women and girls. Worked with their father to serve injunctions to silence people in the party who are against self-ID.

YY. And what is the recent scrubbing of online articles etc if not the continued silencing of a child who was described by AC’s father as a liar and fantastist?

Nothingbutagoodtime · 26/08/2018 21:06

I think the scrubbing of articles is to protect the victim (or I think that's what someone said). I guess it's not that unusual as people can go back and try to piece things together

lowtide · 26/08/2018 21:10

I think most people have pieced it all together already. Perhaps the lack of reporting has been for the benefit of the victim.

mediablackout · 26/08/2018 21:14

@CaitlynsCat posted some of these in another thread that was deleted, but I've found some more around AC being a furry/brony. I think it's worth sharing as both AC / DC share interests in 'alternative lifestyles' (i.e. DC cross-dressing and AC self-identifying as furry).

www.everypony.com/members/featherweight.4990/
www.everypony.com/xfa-blogs/featherweight.4990/

rainbowdash.net/acdash
www.deviantart.com/acfeatherweight

www.furaffinity.net/user/loryv/
www.furaffinity.net/user/denartha/

These are also DC's Flickr and DA accounts. There is some weird stuff around images from their 'meditation' and an interest in Egyptian things.

www.deviantart.com/dchallenor/
www.flickr.com/people/baloo-the-bear/

lowtide · 26/08/2018 21:17

I saw those on twitter. FYI I have now been banned by Aimee on twitter, amongst many others

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 21:19

Aimee appears to have been quite personally involved in David Challenor's campaign against social services. This comment by Aimee (under Aimee's birth name) was posted on February 3 2013 on the entirely unhinged 'Support and Prayers for the Challenor Family' social service hate site

"Ashton Lucas David Challenor
To West Midlands Police and Coventry City Council Social Services.

You don't know us, we will win again.
The Challenor Family - Growth through Challenge
GROWTH THROUGH CHALLENGE

You are challenging us, we will come out stronger."

This is about the same time as Aimee's arrest, apparently, on cyberterrorism charges

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/green-party-general-election-transgender-13092743

The article notes

"West Midlands Police stormed the family home, in the Stoke area of the city, where seven officers broke down the door and arrested the teenager.

But Miss Challenor insists that she is not ashamed of her past and that the incident helped her to become who she is today. She also says she didn’t break the law and no longer attaches herself to Anonymous."

It beggars belief that Aimee would go on to be an advisor to West Midlands Police within just a few years of this.

twitter.com/GreenPartyAimee/status/1006456278678425600

Now it is quite plain that Aimee & other children of David & Tina Challenor have been groomed to behave in this way, and it's not all that surprising that Aimee has until the past few hours been in full support of rapist paedophile controlling groomer David Challenor.

The question is

why the fuck do responsible bodies such as law enforcement, political parties, Scouts, and other bodies, chuck all common sense out of the window when they get victims (such as Aimee) of brainwashing, grooming & abuse spouting ridiculous nonsense while waving the trans wand, and appoint these damaged and disturbed individuals as serious credible advisers?

There are FAR too many cases of severely damaged people being placed on pedestals and given positions of authority simply because they play the T card.

It must stop.

PositivelyPERF · 26/08/2018 21:22

I didn’t suggest Challenor junior was complicit in the brutal male violence inflicted on a child, however Challenor junior seems to be getting a bit of a pass, for supporting their father, AFTER Challenor junior was aware of the accusations. Not only that, but supported his access to vulnerable children while junior did everything possible to allow men to gain access to female spaces. I don’t have a single ounce of sympathy for Challenor junior.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 21:30

The concept of the 'Challenor family' as some sort of army unit (and I note both Aimee & David have military interests) at war with the world is one that David & Aimee pursued vigorously.

See:

the @challenorfamily Twitter account, which claims to be under the control of 'Baloo', however has gone down in the recent past
the challenor.org.uk website (in the last day or two taken down), on which Aimee had a personal subdomain
the 'Challenor Family' photography run by David, Aimee & other family members @photochallenor www.autoyas.com/XX/Unknown/180525862131412/Challenor-Photography
the 'Support and Prayers for the Challenor Family' Facebook hate site.

Make no mistake Aimee was (and maybe still is?) in David Challenor's thrall.

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 26/08/2018 21:31

I’ve just finished reading the court report. What a depressing read. None of those children stood a chance in hell of leaving that house unscathed.

Controversial, but the impression I get from Aimee (and from what I’ve seen of other family members FB pages) is that they aren’t particularly astute. I know there is a statement of SEN too. I get the distinct impression that they would all be particularly easily to manipulate for an agenda and I fear that’s what has happened with Aimee and the Green Party. This is not to excuse Aimee’s own personal behaviour, not at all. But I think we’re working with someone who is very much a product of their upbringing and not someone who would naturally question what they are told. I think that may have had bearing on what AC did or didn’t know regarding DCs charges. Just my opinion.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/08/2018 21:32

The concept of the 'Challenor family' as some sort of army unit (and I note both Aimee & David have military interests) at war with the world is one that David & Aimee pursued vigorously

"Us against the world" is also a very effective neat if brainwashing and controlling

Haworthia · 26/08/2018 21:35

why the fuck do responsible bodies such as law enforcement, political parties, Scouts, and other bodies, chuck all common sense out of the window when they get victims (such as Aimee) of brainwashing, grooming & abuse spouting ridiculous nonsense while waving the trans wand, and appoint these damaged and disturbed individuals as serious credible advisers?

There are FAR too many cases of severely damaged people being placed on pedestals and given positions of authority simply because they play the T card.

It must stop.

Exactly, Cat, EXACTLY.

Having read the lengthy court ruling linked earlier, it could not be more obvious that the Challenor children have suffered neglect and abuse on a massive scale from birth. It beggars belief that someone as vulnerable, damaged and mentally unwell as AC should find themselves with an influential job with the Green Party. I mean, who appointed them?

But it’s not just that - it seems that the father was really quite deeply involved in AC’s work within the party (screenshots from a thread started by Hadley Freeman on Twitter today)

Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party
Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party