Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

I think his involvement was deep within the party and his obvious influence on Aimee.
This is what the Green Party have to look into.
A poor child from a fucked background with a major influencers who has clearly brainwashed her. How was this allowed to happen.
I was told on Twitter that the local GP basically just accepts a few forms and it’s all run by volunteers.
Can anyone take them seriously
All you need is a little bit of power and it’s amazing the access to safe places that you can get.

I was told on Twitter that the local GP basically just accepts a few forms and it’s all run by volunteers.

The LDs were in power on not a lot more. It'd frighten you to know the extent to which they run out of garden sheds and spare rooms. People assume they are a professional outfit - only parts of the party are anything like that. They employ a tiny number of people. The public are simply unaware of how politics is run.

The LDs are a way behind the big two parties but even then what happens at Labour and the Cons might surprise you.

A lot of Labour is run on volunteer power with surprisingly little interference from the centre - perhaps until more recently.

Even the Cons traditionally ran off the back of volunteers but as they've all died / become infirm (not even joking on that) the emphasis has switched far more to centralised control.

Indeed the creep of authoritarianism in politics has come about as power as become more concerned through the running of social media campaigns which meant that volunteers and voices on the ground weren't heard or needed.

Again its one of those things that isn't a coincidence.

My wonder is how much of the Green Party's entire IT / social media campaign strategy goes through Aimee Challenor. It would not at all surprise me, if it wasn't a significant chunk.

My gut feeling, wonders if the Green Party aren't a lot more dependent on Challenor than any of us, might dare to think.

Speaking of Aimee and his penchant for blocking GC women..

Terfblocker appears to have disappeared up its own rear end.

I would be interested to be a fly on the wall of the social services team that dealt with this family come Tuesday morning. Not that any of the social workers that dealt with them previously are probably still working in child protection.

I suspect that somewhere out there there is a social worker or two feeing vindicated that their 'gut' wasn't wrong on this occasion.

I'm not surprised this is hitting a slow burn currently in the MSM, but I also suspect that it won't remain the case once people get back into work after the bank holiday.

Just awful.

Speaking of Aimee and his penchant for blocking GC women

Terfblocker appears to have disappeared up its own rear end

Wow! They must be panicking and attempting a huge cleanup.

It's well worth having a look at the recent tweets on Hadley Freeman's twitter feed - she's fully out of the GC closet now (and retweeting Janice Turner too).

Will Lily Madigans blacklist go too then ? Labour need to clean that up pronto, I think it was originally the terfblocker list ?
I’ve just seen a tweet on twitter where AC called Andy Healey “cunt”.
HOW have the Green Party allowed this person to get so much power ?

Aimee is not a sexual predator or abuser.

That is quite a statement. Have you observed all of AC's sexual interactions since their coming of age?

Terfblocker is there and gloating and threatening to sue Glinner.

I don’t really understand the terfblocker thing.
I am blocked from them. And Aimee anyone else who supported her.
I didnt even say anything anti trans.
The world has gone mad. You employ a peodophile and people pull you up on it, and all of a sudden they’re a terf. Madness

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I am presuming not currently.
I didn’t want to say anything controversial, I had a fear this thread would get pulled if I said something else.
I nearly did though.

There were a few mentions in the judge’s 2010 report of anonymous referrals to SS concerning the state of the house, children’s hygiene etc and I thought “how many times do we see a thread on MN asking ‘should I report to SS?’” My initial reaction was this is why you should always report your concerns, there is usually a jigsaw being pieces together that your information can help with. But then I got to the end of the report and thought “what is the actual fucking point?” All those referrals, professional witness statements, case files 20 lever arch files of over 5000 pages of information, spanning over 10 years, previous children permanently removed, zero progress from the family on improving any of the issues and when it gets to court, SS change their mind and walk out leaving the children there. What is the point?

As I read it the issue was that while there were huge concerns about the family and numerous jigsaw pieces, it all was just under the threshold for removing the children.

Well it cost SS 400k
I guess they just didn’t have a leg to stand on. Not if the whole family were a strong unit. I’m sure they knew deep down.
Fucking sad. Those poor children.

From the other thread

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/26/green-party-statement-aimee-challenor-stands-down-in-green-party-deputy-leadership-race/

Terfblocker appears to have disappeared up its own rear end.

If that's the case we can look forward to lots of sensitive souls wailing that they are now "unsafe" as they might have to hear an opinion they disagree with. As happened when Madigan brought down the original "TERF blocker." I may have lolled. A lot.

Aimee had a personal subdomain
the 'Challenor Family' photography run by David, Aimee & other family members

Apparently DC was the official photographer for LGBTQ Greens sometimes and photographed Pride.

Indeed the creep of authoritarianism in politics has come about as power as become more concerned through the running of social media campaigns which meant that volunteers and voices on the ground weren't heard or needed.

This, this, this.

Please everybody, even outwith this Challenor debacle, even outside all things extremist transactivism, think about this.

This is why things such as Man Friday and Sticker Woman are important. There is so little real grass roots action now - it's all astroturfing - that power is steadily creeping further and further away from the average person and becoming concentrated more and more into the hands of ideologues and those who simply want to turn a profit.

According to some woke bro Green misogynist on Twitter.

it all was just under the threshold for removing the children.

I know. it would appear the thresholds require adjusting. Also TBF- LA dropped the fucking ball massively wrt not noticing huge number of GP attendances. Seemed to have pissed the judge right off. Understandably.

In response to a tweet by Andrew Gilligan:

Clare King @ clarefking
One thing, Anyone standing for election for any party will be asked to declare anything which might be potentially or actually difficult (presswise, reputationally, etc) Clearly that includes a close family member charged with a serious crime if only because of the press angle.
Can't imagine the Green Party doesn't ask this of council/Parliamentary candidates/those standing for Leader/Deputy etc.Not declaring normally serious. Given he was charged in 2015, if she declared it,did GP allow him to be her election agent; if she didn't,what's their position?
and if she declared it, any google search would have come up with David C charged with animal cruelty & imprisoned and a clearly long/difficult involvement with Social Services. Many questions for Green Party locally/nationally here.

This goes back to conflict of interest.

Being from a troubled background where it later comes out that a close member of your family, did something which abused someone and going into politics is one thing.

Being from that background, but actively campaigning to remove safeguarding frameworks designed to try and protect people from abuse is another. It either says you lack capacity to understand the purpose and need for safeguarding - because of your upbringing or it says you don't value safeguarding frameworks - because of your upbringing.

If you then don't actively declare to your party how this might reflect on you and your party only serves to compound that inherent conflict of interest.

And let me make the point, that if you happened to be trans or a member of the green party, how the fuck does the situation that has arisen advance your interests? I'm sure there are trans people reading this, in as much horror as any of this and I'm sure there are green party activists feeling very betrayed by it.

If the Green Party has skipped on this due diligence its even worse.

Reading with concern

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/26/green-party-statement-aimee-challenor-stands-down-in-green-party-deputy-leadership-race/

I’d temporarily forgotten about DC’s involvement with Scouts, gymnastics, Parkrun etc etc. How the fuck does a man with such a long and chequered history with SS, a man who has had his children taken into care, manage that? Surely even if his only conviction was cruelty to animals, that would come up on a DBS check? Or is cruelty to animals not quite enough to be flagged as a problem?

Very informative thread thanks all. Will be watching this story closely - I'm certain, sadly that the scope will grow.