Dark and stormies all round! Bluestocking piss up

[QuentinSummers]

A friendly place for feminist or general chit chat. Welcome all!

Good... I put on some laundry and then - for the first time in ages, after a lapse from consistent exercise due to assorted issues - did level 1 of the 30 day shred. I'd meant to get back in the habit of doing it first thing, but overslept this morning... I needed a kick to get me going! So, thanks!

Ooh well done
30 mins tidying though more to do later

Now, workout time, nearly skipped it but as you have done it, I'm inspired, thanks!

Anyone been on this thread? The poor abused OP is getting a further kicking from the posters. This is the time to be kind, ffs

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3341124-To-actually-begin-to-think-my-dh-gaslights-everyone-around-him-Everyone?messages=100&pg=5

I had a sensible conversation IRL with someone about all this stuff for the first time ever tonight.
We spent hours talking things through, understood each other, didn't agree on every single point but that doesn't matter, and there was no shouting TERF or threats of violence.
Not someone I expected, either.
It is so good to have someone IRL who I can talk to, who understands that biology matters. Feel better tonight than I have in a long time.

Today I had a conversation with a male friend who had no idea that women didn't have their own loos in public in the past. I hope it made him stop and think a bit about why we're so protective of them.

Having an evening of YouTube and some Jagged Little Pill. God Alanis is great when you're angry...

That sounds delightful. Love a bit of Alanis. Hope you've had a better day today, Floral. Sorry you've been poorly.

Cheers heresy! Actually it's been cast iron awful. But music soothes the broken heart.

I am finding it really hard not to end every post with a single sentence saying 'Twat' right now.

LOL. Same.

How are you doing today, Floral? Are you on the mend?
(or it might be late enough for ?)

No wine tonight, I'm up before 6 for work tomorrow. The bug has passed, but I am exhausted and could have done with another day to rest, but real life don't work that way!

Ach, and it is. That's frustrating. You really deserve some R&R.
Hope you get to take it easy this evening and work goes okay.

Thanks m'dear! I'm having a nice late dinner, and bath and bed as early as I can.

Right, that's it. I'm having a few days off MN. I'm beyond fucking livid at the NSPCC thing. I haven't got spare capacity to argue with people who don't care about child protection yet get lots of funding to pretend they do and I am weary of the lying fucking bullshit from the people who think this is fine and dandy.

@speakingwoman sorry to @ you, but I wanted to let you know I wasn't jumping ship from your very interesting gender thread, I am practising some self care so I can be back in the trenches at a later point, when I've come to terms with the fact that child abuse is still such a popular fucking idea that it's just not important for feminists and parents to worry about.

Floral, I think I may do the same. This is all simultaneously infuriating and shattering.
Do take care of yourself.

I shall digest what you said and await your return floral Tara for now.

floral totally get it. I feel the same way. Every so often I dip in here or go and lurk on twitter to get more info, then I send another letter/email and speak to a few more people in RL.

The NSPCC thread upset me enough without reading the appalling responses to the poster on the other thread.

So I too will be going for now, but I will be back and we will win.

Thank you to all the regular posters who don’t name change who I’ve read for years who I’m comforted to know will still be here when I come back to you too.

Could I have a hand hold please? I have just had to disagree about something with a whole group of my friends. Nothing to do with current themes but hard all the same.

I hate disagreeing with people. But I did It.

Well done for sticking up for your own opinions. I know how hard it is when you realise that friends have a totally different opinion about something important.

Hand holding here ✋✋

And do you know what? Nothing awful happened. One friend said I made good points and another said I made my points well.

ISaySteadyOn

Well done. Occasionally when one sticks ones neck out, but can back it up has a tremendously positive effect.

New found respect, nodding in agreement, breaking the mould.

We are so conditioned to peacekeep. And I t's so ingrained that it overrides logic. But when that logic emerges, people think oh yeah there is, I like that.

Thanks. It was a discussion about preventing local pollution and people from one part hadn't thought about how it might affect people from my part (polluting mine more). So I had to say something.