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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

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IAmDavidLewis · 22/05/2018 23:17

Well, one of the weirdest days in my life concluded with me receiving a letter informing me of my immediate suspension from the Labour Party. They believe I may have breached the rules by subverting the intention of All Women Shortlists, Women’s Officers or minimum quotas for women. Unfortunately, this does mean that my political ambitions are on hold for a while. I shall of course be continuing to self-identify as a woman every Wednesday, as that is my gender identity...

I have to say a huge thanks to @namechangeah for all her help, guidance and, more importantly, proof-reading! I wouldn’t have gotten to this point without it. I’d also like to thank everyone for their support today. I hope this has helped a bit.

And the Telegraph called me an “activist”! Achievement unlocked Grin

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TERFragetteCity · 23/05/2018 21:49

David - I am afraid Supermatch known you better than you know yourself. Fact.

SimonBridges · 23/05/2018 21:51

Do not read the content of the pictures if you are likely to be upset by the abuse of women by men, like anyone wouldn’t be.

Anyway, SuperMatchGame. Are these fake or real transwomen?

Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?
Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?
ToeToToe · 23/05/2018 21:55

SimonBridges has posted SM posts with very offensive content - but I'm afraid, vital -IMO- for all women to read.

I've read a lot on this subject - but I only saw these today, on another thread. They have been verified, on that same thread as behaviour consistent with physiological autogynephilia.

These people are amongst the population who want to share changing rooms and toilets with women.

TERFragetteCity · 23/05/2018 21:55

This really IS SupermatchGame - match the comments to the Genuine Trans woman.

TransplantsArePlants · 23/05/2018 21:58

These people are amongst the population who want to share changing rooms and toilets with women.

Fakeplasticflowers · 23/05/2018 22:00

poster

SimonBridges. Shock. Those narratives are beyond vile.

Gacapa · 23/05/2018 22:03

Just adding my thanks, David.

Noqonterfi · 23/05/2018 22:07

These people are amongst the population who want to share changing rooms and toilets with women

Yep. There really are no words.

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 22:07

Yep. There really are no words.

None!

Fakeplasticflowers · 23/05/2018 22:08

SimonBridges: also meant to say that, despite my reaction, they are so important to share. We should be fully aware of what is going on in the minds of some people who would seek to share women's spaces.

Bi11yOneMate · 23/05/2018 22:08

IAmDavidLewis not that it's worth much, but well done to you. I admire your work Wink

VanGoghsDog · 23/05/2018 22:12

@IAmDavidLewis

I have been supporting you on Twitter, I won;t post my Twitter name here though.

I am in awe of what you have done, it's brilliant.

Italiangreyhound · 23/05/2018 22:15

@IAmDavidLewis hi, met you in Basingstoke. How can we support you? (You are fab).

Italiangreyhound · 23/05/2018 22:16

@SimonBridges My good Lord I feel sick, who goes through a sanitary bin???????????????????????????????????

LangCleg · 23/05/2018 22:17

You are discriminating against me because you feel I am the wrong kind of transgender person. I am clearly not enough of a woman for your liking.

Exactly. So, SMG, what do you have to say to our sister, David? Who are you to gatekeep David's identity?

IAmDavidLewis · 23/05/2018 22:20

@Italiangreyhound Thank you, just knowing that there is support is enough for now Smile

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scotsheather · 23/05/2018 22:24

"Simonbridges* I'm lost for words.

throwawayagain · 23/05/2018 22:24

Thank you David.

Voice0fReason · 23/05/2018 22:25

Thank you David, we need more people like you in politics

Datun · 23/05/2018 22:26

Italiangreyhound

@SimonBridges My good Lord I feel sick, who goes through a sanitary bin???????????????????????????????????

The whole thing is quite revolting.

Breast feeding also gets fetishised.

With desperate, long term use of pumps and hormones.

Once you see this side of things, the misogyny running through the community is less surprising.

LangCleg · 23/05/2018 22:30

Posting offensive comments about them works, too.

And also - it doesn't really matter how people identify. If it becomes normalised that obviously male people frequent women's spaces, and we know that a significant minority of male people have fetishes such as listening to women pee or collecting their used sanitary products, why wouldn't those fetishists put on a dress and some lippy on a Tuesday afternoon when they fancied getting off? It doesn't matter if they actually have a trans identification or not.

LangCleg · 23/05/2018 22:31

(Sorry, cocked up a copy paste from another thread. But you know what I mean.)

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 22:33

Datun Totally agree. I read a thread on a USA trans forum where the TIM was taking high doses of hormones and using a breast pump every 4 hours day and night, to lactate would make them a 'real' woman and be the epitome of the 'womanhood' they dreamed of. It was completely taking over their life as they strove to be able to produce milk. It was stomach churning tbh.

Halebeke425 · 23/05/2018 22:34

This is often dismissed but those screen shots by SimonBridges are relevant - I have experienced autogynophile behaviour myself in real life, it was very distressing as they like the fact they are making you uncomfortable and there's nothing you can do. Without going into all the very outing details, in my situation I refused to serve this person again and made it known to other colleagues.

One worrying aspect of self ID is that if an autogynophile tries to abuse it to get their kicks, you could be seen as discriminating against their 'gender identity' and face a legal challenge if you refuse to play along, like I did. I actually know a couple of trans people in real life and the ones I have spoken to share the same concerns about 'weirdos' further abusing the system as they have also come across those types in their communities and had unpleasant experiences.

It's perfectly ok to be pro Trans but critical of these reforms and the increasingly nebulous definition of sex/gender, woman/man and what the wider implications are. It doesn't have to be a war, no one needs to be 'erased' we could just listen to each other, think realistically and be sensible. Just saying 'transwomen are women' over and over does not help, when you can't even define 'women' or appreciate their needs and concerns.

Thank you for highlighting this issue David, I think you have done so respectfully and with the attitude of someone just trying to be sensible.

SupermatchGame · 23/05/2018 22:39

Only trans identified males with GRC are considered legally women. But let's go round again, do!

Quite. You said it yourself. They are legally women. Hence not men. Even when it comes out of your own mouth you dispute it!

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