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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Munroe Bergdorf 'What Makes a Woman' Channel 4 16/5

415 replies

R0wantrees · 16/05/2018 14:38

Extract from Radio Times:
www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-05-16/what-makes-a-woman-review-munroe-bergdorf-transgender-activist-debate/

"There are more moments of vulnerability when Bergdorf attends a discussion by a feminist group called We Need To Talk. There’s a real sense of menace in the air as transgender people gather outside to protest the meeting of so-called TERFS – Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists – who believe trans women are not female but are in fact men threatening to infiltrate women’s space.

Bergdorf is extremely articulate in one to one interviews so it’s a shame she doesn’t feel able to stay and debate them, but it’s also understandable – the atmosphere inside the meeting is toxic and she’s surrounded on all sides.

“When we [see] events like this, which directly are designed to deny [transgender women’s] very identities and the fact that we even exist, it’s extremely hurtful and concerning,” she says as she leaves. But she later sits down with one of the organisers, Venice Allan (aka Dr Radfem, just in case you were in any doubt).

They have an interesting debate about female and transgender rights, but it ends tellingly with the good Dr declaring “feminism is about women!” when surely feminism is about equality....

Concludes:
What Makes a Woman provides a valuable grounding in the ins and outs of the transgender debate for those of us who could use it – but it’s also a profile of a intriguing, sensitive, likeable person who is herself still on a journey of discovery."

What Makes a Woman is on tonight, Wednesday 16th May, at 10pm on Channel 4 and available afterwards on All4

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/05/2018 22:52

Ah. Lady brain.

VaggieMight · 16/05/2018 22:53

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spontaneousgiventime · 16/05/2018 22:53

Seeing as I pushed my kids out of my vagina, I think it's damn well definitely a female thing.

HelenaDove · 16/05/2018 22:53

Does womens hair grow quicker than mens? it explains why my roots come through so quickly.

MrsWooster · 16/05/2018 22:54

1science science science "Oh so gender is a spectrum!" Cherry pick the science that suits

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/05/2018 22:54

Ooh. They're going to use an al.gor.rhythm...

LikeAZombie · 16/05/2018 22:54

She's only got half a brain. Can't say I'm too surprised

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/05/2018 22:55

Arf

MrsWooster · 16/05/2018 22:55

Totes hilife - can't see your brain because of your extensions!

spontaneousgiventime · 16/05/2018 22:55

There told ya, I've got a pink brain. Betcha.

TwittleBee · 16/05/2018 22:55

Urgh but just because your brain appears to be more on the feminine spectrum doesn't make you a fucking woman!

MrsWooster · 16/05/2018 22:55

hilaire

Numbkinnuts · 16/05/2018 22:55

Those fucking nails !

JoanSummers · 16/05/2018 22:56

Trans id'ing ppl are screwed if docs can strt to identify a 'trans brain'. If they can do that they can test for it. What tiny percentage do you think would have it?

This programme is an own goal inside an own goal inside an own goal.

Jfc this bit with the hairclip.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/05/2018 22:56

A gender stereotypes questionnaire

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/05/2018 22:57

I really want to see the questionnaire used...

BlooperReel · 16/05/2018 22:57

The whole vagina is just a body part bit. Fucking hell.

MrsWooster · 16/05/2018 22:57

Based on a questionnaire and brain data... I wonder what was measured?

"I've never said I was a fish gender woman" no, because cos is made up bollocks

spontaneousgiventime · 16/05/2018 22:57

Transgender brain?

TwittleBee · 16/05/2018 22:57

I'm not a fucking cis woman either Luv, I'm a WOMAN. I've a fucking vagina.

JoanSummers · 16/05/2018 22:57

"The data we have from you classifies you as a transgender person" after the survey :D and MB looks pleased with that!

Those gender surveys usually identify me as a man..

CoolCarrie · 16/05/2018 22:57

So what does that prove?

MrsWooster · 16/05/2018 22:57

Oh ffs. CIS

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/05/2018 22:57

I identify as a hake Wink

MrsWooster · 16/05/2018 22:58

Women like you still don't exist. Trans women like you exist.