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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Channel 4's Genderquake Debate is heavily criticised/ boycotted(?) by prominent transgender activists & allies .

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R0wantrees · 08/05/2018 17:11

Transgender campaigners and organisations have released an open letter to Channel 4 criticising Genderquake, a season of programmes touted as an exploration of the gender debate, as "counterproductive".
Signees are particularly concerned about Genderquake: The Debate, a studio discussion hosted by Cathy Newman that promises to look at what gender means in 2018. It will discuss topics including: 'what defines our gender identity', 'how that affects our rights', 'should it be easier to change gender' and 'does gender matter'.

The letter, published by indy100 in full below, argues that the debate will give legitimacy to transphobia, prejudice and the notion that trans identities are up for discussion. This concern is presumably stoked by the presence of Australian-born academic and writer Germaine Greer on the panel, who has previously said transgender women "can't be women". continues...

"The letter is published in full below and has been signed by dozens of prominent transgender and non-binary activists and campaigners - and allies - alike, including Fox Fisher, Owl, Stephanie Hirst, Juno Roche, Travis Alabanza, Kate Llewellyn, Jack Monroe and India Willoughby."

www.indy100.com/article/genderquake-the-debate-transphobia-channel-4-open-letter-campaigners-germaine-greer-8341481

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spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:46

GG not happy with the way the show is going and the topics.

Truscum · 08/05/2018 22:47

Well, this has been a massive diss appointment.

Only two gender critical voices in a panel of how many?

A presenter who is quite blatantly shutting down any GC views being aired and is instead encouraging Jenner to bore the fucking socks off everyone with a necdotes and waste time.

I actually thought ‘finally!’ when she started talking about some people promoting violence and thought she may mention the SF exhibit....but, no. Let’s grill GG on how she doesn’t think men are women.

Cwenthryth · 08/05/2018 22:47

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rememberthetime · 08/05/2018 22:47

I think there's a good chance CJ has been promised a certain amount of airtime... even Newman must recognise she is not contributing to the argument. Why else is CJ being given the platform... I'm much more interested in what everyone else has to say.

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:47

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NotTerfNorCis · 08/05/2018 22:48

The presenter is biased. Probably shit scared of a TRA backlash. You could tell from the start she was on edge.

LikeAZombie · 08/05/2018 22:48

No ash the most important word in feminism is funking woman.
Trans rights is not our job women have enough to do

VaggieMight · 08/05/2018 22:48

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/05/2018 22:48

Yay, Sarah

boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:49

I think there's a good chance CJ has been promised a certain amount of airtime...

Interestingly, I had wondered the same thing.

TinselAngel · 08/05/2018 22:49

I'm starting to think Sarah Ditum has even been put on a lower chair?

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:49

Segment three - YAWN!

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:49

sarah is doing a fabulous job

MipMipMip · 08/05/2018 22:50

Has the transmen said anything other than his pronouns?

Terfulike · 08/05/2018 22:50

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Hand it round

Lemonjello · 08/05/2018 22:50

I think there's a good chance CJ has been promised a certain amount of airtime...

Deffo. I thought this too.

QuentinSummers · 08/05/2018 22:50

Jesus this is dire

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:50

SD Is trying so hard but just being shouted over while dreary deary CJ is fawned over.

rememberthetime · 08/05/2018 22:50

Ditum is certainly pushed back somewhat. Also Ash keeps sitting forward and getting in her line of sight.

I'm reading here rather than watch...

Lemonjello · 08/05/2018 22:51

Fab point from Sarah about women being talked over

DoubleRamsey · 08/05/2018 22:51

Someone needs to point out that when CJ speaks and makes zero points boringly the host giggles. When GG says important factual information the host interrupts and is antagonistic Hmm

We are living in Orwellian times. I have just peak transed

Cwenthryth · 08/05/2018 22:51

Well less than 10 mins left, really what was the point of this

Truscum · 08/05/2018 22:51

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ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:52

frantic back peddling from munroe on the women's march tweet