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JK Rowling, transwomen and the Labour Party

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HeyRoly · 20/03/2018 22:43

JK Rowling liked this tweet. I think she might be one of us. Will be interesting to see if this kicks off...

JK Rowling, transwomen and the Labour Party

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LaContessaDiPlump · 20/03/2018 22:44

Ooh. Have thought she might be for a while. Fingers crossed!

CadyHeron · 20/03/2018 23:28

Excellent if so, hope so!

Terftastic · 20/03/2018 23:36

JK has certainly been called a TERF before. I've always had high hopes for her - she seems far too intelligent to fall for this crap.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 20/03/2018 23:36

Excellent news, hopefully young female Harry Potter fans might be taking note of her views on this.

MyBrilliantDisguise · 20/03/2018 23:41

I reckon she's on here.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 20/03/2018 23:57

She so knows, and she's too clever to fall for this shit.

Didn't she have a book with a "trans able" character?

Hulo · 21/03/2018 00:03

I love this term brocialist I'm seeing around

Writersblock2 · 21/03/2018 00:04

Come on, Jo! Bloody hell we could do with a well-known woman standing up about this.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/03/2018 00:15

She had to 'identify' as GN when she wrote Harry Potter. "JK" indeed...

Weezol · 21/03/2018 00:19

Hulo Bromentum is run by and for Brocialists.

CadyHeron · 21/03/2018 00:23

She had to 'identify' as GN when she wrote Harry Potter. "JK" indeed...

Ooh, good point! Yes, as a huge Harry Potter fan I've read about how she put JK instead so she would be taken more seriously as a writer if it was just initials.
Joanne Rowling? Meh, not so much. Don't get the boys wanting to pick you up and read,apparently.
JK Rowling though? Everyone wants to read as they automatically don't think you're a girl and "girly." and not worth reading as it's a "girly" book.
This all back in the 90s. She knows her stuff

grovebeach · 21/03/2018 00:25

Just a shame she stood by the casting of Johnny Depp even after it transpired he's a woman beater!

CadyHeron · 21/03/2018 00:30

grovebeach nobody's perfect, if she did, nobody's going to agree on everything.
On this issue though, does it mean that you shouldn't listen and ally just because she said something in the past you disagree with?

grovebeach · 21/03/2018 00:36

Cady I don't think that at all and I'm glad someone of her profile and influence is putting her head above the parapet. I just think it's a worthy thing to point out.

NeverTalksToStrangers · 21/03/2018 00:40

I watched this the other day on a dvd of the Deathly Hallows and immediately thought of this topic.

CadyHeron · 21/03/2018 00:45

Cady I don't think that at all and I'm glad someone of her profile and influence is putting her head above the parapet. I just think it's a worthy thing to point out.

Fair enough then
As an aside I'm finding it cool to think that I could be arguing with big names behind all this, JKRowling if you're reading I hope I haven't dismissed you as in the past

thebewilderness · 21/03/2018 01:08

Two of her Galbraith books have had trans characters. The Silkworm has a trans identified male and Career of Evil had a transabled character.
The protagonist in the novels, Strike, is an amputee.

Terftastic · 21/03/2018 01:10

I've watched that interview with JK before - and found it incredibly moving. Not just about her want for powerful female characters, but her testament to motherhood.

The two mothers at the beginning and end of the story - his mother protecting him, and then Malfoy's mother saving him at the end, to save her own son. Just great. Great writing. I love JK.

"You can't just put a dress on a man and make him female" - damn right.

DryHeave · 21/03/2018 02:18

Hagrid’s a woman and has been for 20 years...

C8H10N4O2 · 21/03/2018 08:56

I could have made that tweet - I also remember a Labour party which was less that friendly to women and mocked and undermined campaigns like Claire Short's on page three.

I was openly told that the LP was a working men's club. This wasn't universal - there were other voices - but there was a strong stream of sexism and its still there, just as much as in the Tories.

MrPan · 21/03/2018 09:00

Hagrid's only living as a woman.

BarrackerBarmer · 21/03/2018 09:50

oof

Just watched that interview where Julie Walters described Molly's visceral defence of her daughter as "coming from her womb" and it made me break down in tears.

These fundamental truths about women, and about mothers, written so perfectly by Rowling. And then this stupid and overwhelming struggle we're currently stuck in, of truth being subsumed under an avalanche of stereotypes about the feelings of men who think they are female.

I've been hoping for years that JK is one of us.

I think she is.

I hope she doesn't in fact 'out' herself if she is.
I think she could be far more helpful behind the scenes, by discreetly reaching out to one of the organisations publicly fighting for women's rights.

We are outgunned by the Pritzkers and the Rothblatts et al, and although we have facts and truth, science and fairness, we live in a post truth world where the key organisation of women's rights is now taking place in secret enclaves of women trying to push back the tide, not lose their jobs doing it, and feed their children tea at the same time.

Joanna, if you're reading, please reach out somehow to someone. We really need you.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/03/2018 10:06

Yes. Barracker "the fundamental truths about women, about mothers". Every single person alive came out of a woman's womb. The complete lack of respect for women and their bodies inherent in identity politics makes me despair. We should be looking outwards, at this world which is still so dreadful for girls and women, in so many ways, and which we are destroying ecologically. Not inward in some endless search for "identity". I've managed perfectly well not identifying as anything. I am female, a woman, a mother.

Kyanite · 21/03/2018 10:10

JKR will do anything to stop people voting Labour while it is a Socialist Party.

Childrenofthestones · 21/03/2018 12:23

About 15 years ago I was at a local council committee meeting open to the public, but the only members of the public were half a dozen of us union members from our branch.
A liberal Democrat counsellor stood up and had her say, took less than a minute, and as she sat down a labour councillor, a big man in his 60's and a bit of a bruiser sat opposite me muttered, but loud enough for everybody in the room to hear. " Sit down you stupid fucking bitch"
I and my colleagues sat looking open mouthed at one another.
If one of us had done this in work it would have been a disciplinary and possibly we would be sat in front of this same committee with them deciding whether or not to give us the sack.
I leant forward and said to the Counselor that had invited us to come along, who was sat two seats away "Did you not hear that?"
His response was " Oh that's just Peter."
Shit like this makes you realise why the Tories are on their second female leader and despite having wall to wall feminists in the party Labour has never had one.

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