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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling, transwomen and the Labour Party

176 replies

HeyRoly · 20/03/2018 22:43

JK Rowling liked this tweet. I think she might be one of us. Will be interesting to see if this kicks off...

JK Rowling, transwomen and the Labour Party
JK Rowling, transwomen and the Labour Party
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FeministBadger · 21/03/2018 14:37

His response was " Oh that's just Peter."

This kind of thing really makes my blood boil - how can Labour pretend they are a party for everyone when they have an on going history of refusing to stand up to sexists, racists and anti-semites?

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 21/03/2018 14:45

JKR will do anything to stop people voting Labour while it is a Socialist Party

Like, literally anything. Even 'liking a tweet'. Are there no depths to which she won't sink in her depravity?

womanhuman · 21/03/2018 14:48

😂

slug · 21/03/2018 15:50

If you read the third Strike book, there's a whole plot line (left out from the TV adaptation) about "trans-abled" activists.

I think we can safely assume she's not entirely enamored with the TRA movement.

BarrackerBarmer · 21/03/2018 16:02

jack bootstrap opining that the world doesn't work like a Harry Potter book.

In complete seriousness.

I mean, come on JKR! If you can write a transmogrification spell why the hell can't you perform one?

Ritzsaltedcrackers · 21/03/2018 16:35

I tweeted at her last week asking her to say or do something about the biggest assault on women’s rights in decades. Maybe it got her attention!

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 16:52

Describing transwomen 'as men in dresses' is a stereotypical image of transwomen. Because that's all some people think being trans is.

She has a great point about women being ignored in the Labour party and the sexism and mysogyny going on. But then there's the 'men in dresses' bit.

Teacuphiccup · 21/03/2018 17:06

yet what is being trans if it’s not presenting as the perceived idea of the opposite gender to the one usually assigned to your sex? ‘Man in dress’ is reductive but and simplified but what’s the deeper stuff of being trans?

Genuine question btw.

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 17:09

what is being trans if it’s not presenting as the perceived idea of the opposite gender to the one usually assigned to your sex

There is now a massive trans umbrella which seems to now have encompassed people who cross dress occasionally all the way to people who are transsexual - where it's far far far deeper than a superficial presentation of what people think the opposite sex looks like.

SunsetBeetch · 21/03/2018 17:10

I keep reading bootstrap cook as bootstrap cock Blush

Pretty bad form of Jack to call her out like that I think. Just setting her up for all kinds of abuse.

Teacuphiccup · 21/03/2018 17:10

Could you elaborate on what it is that runs deeper? Do you mean gender dysphoria?

(I hope you don’t mind me asking, I’m not being goady just nosey)

Mouthtrousersafrocknowandthen · 21/03/2018 17:13

teacuphiccup

Read some of Jayceedoves posts.

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 17:19

I hope you don’t mind me asking, I’m not being goady just nosey

I'd love to - but this is not the thread for it. Just to say that being transsexual and having had surgery and HRT has been far more what I needed to do for my whole well being and perception of me instead of simply wearing a dress.

But for some people, they do like wearing dresses. And I fear that's those are the voices being heard at the moment.

BeyondDeadlySiren · 21/03/2018 17:47

Not like mx Jack to encourage dogpiling... Hmm

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 17:52

Not like mx Jack to encourage dogpiling

She didn't really need to. JK Rowling has many followers and there has been a lot of reaction to her liking that tweet.

thebewilderness · 21/03/2018 21:17

Describing transwomen 'as men in dresses' is a stereotypical image of transwomen.
It is an accurate representation of what the 2010 EA clearly states is sufficient evidence that a male is legally a woman.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 21/03/2018 21:40

I'm loving all the woke yout tweeting about how she's 'over' now. She's got 14 million fucking followers.

SubsidisedVowels · 21/03/2018 21:44

I bet she's quaking in her boots Certain. Even if she never sells another copy of anything ever again, she's not exactly going to be stuck for cash is she?

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 22:03

It is an accurate representation of what the 2010 EA clearly states is sufficient evidence that a male is legally a woman

Not really.

Because the Equality Act doesn't say anything about that. It discusses gender reassignment and not being discriminated against for that.

The GRA does talk about what is needed to get a GRC. It's far more than being 'a man in a dress'.

LassWiADelicateAir · 21/03/2018 22:07

JKR will do anything to stop people voting Labour while it is a Socialist Party

The current incarnation of the Labour does not need help from JKR to stop people voting for it; the Labour is perfectly capable of making people make that decision through its own actions.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 21/03/2018 22:08

Yes. And lots of 'I never liked Harry Potter' - how perceptive of you to know that its author was going to 'like' a vaguely terfy tweet 20 years in the future. Well done you.

thebewilderness · 21/03/2018 22:11

Here is the quote from the EA that says putting on a dress is part of the process and so has the protected characteristic:
(1)A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning the person's sex by changing physiological or other attributes of sex.

(2)A reference to a transsexual person is a reference to a person who has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

(3)In relation to the protected characteristic of gender reassignment—

(a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a transsexual person;

(b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to transsexual persons.

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 22:16

A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning the person's sex by changing physiological or other attributes of sex

Physiological.

Where does it mention anything about dresses?

thebewilderness · 21/03/2018 22:19

physiological or other attributes of sex

yetanothertranswoman · 21/03/2018 22:21

physiological or other attributes of sex

But dresses can be worn by men or women - and wanting to wear a dress does not make you a woman.

Unless you think that dresses are only for women and that is an attribute of sex?

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