TIM rights to sex with lesbians

[Janie143]

I have no words !! Sorry I can't seem to do clicky link gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/08/11/dana-beyers-rotting-lesbian-iceberg/

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/08/11/dana-beyers-rotting-lesbian-iceberg/

Clicky link. Rage warning; Its as vile as the title suggests.
gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/08/11/dana-beyers-rotting-lesbian-iceberg/

Surely who you have sex with is a personal choice. Of both parties and if one doesn't it doesn't matter two hoots why. No means no. If you ain't getting any, it's you who might need to change.

Oh my God.

I had no idea quite how massive transvestism was until I got involved in this.

Not only are fetishist transvestites ten a penny, they are even more male, entitled and threatening than your average man.

Or, maybe, given there are so many of them, all the rich, powerful ones have found their tribe.

In my mind's eye I am seeing this world in 20 or 30 years time, being run by perverted, fetishistic men in dresses, as prime minister, president, the lot.

Because they are everywhere.

I don't want to click on that. Can someone summarise it for me?

Gender Trender is a reputable gender critical website so don't be afraid to click.

I think a few months ago this would have made me despair. Now it makes me want to fight harder.

Logic, reason, facts...

I don't want to click on that. Can someone summarise it for me?

The gist of it seems to be men and people in possession of a penis are entitled to access to women's bodies and if the woman refuses this she is hostile to men. If the man is a TIM she is hostile and a transphobe.

Straight wealthy AGP complains lesbians won't sleep with him. Calls them horrid names. Calls himself "more gay" than a homosexual male.

Intersting from the article:

wealthy white middle-aged heterosexual men as him have taken over the boards of nearly every major formerly LGBT lobbying group as gay funding dwindles in the post DADT (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell) and DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) era

As of May, the board of GLAAD (Formerly Gays and Lesbians Allied Against Defamation, the group severed itself officially from its “Gay” and “Lesbian” roots earlier this year, keeping the acronym only for its name recognition) was controlled by middle-aged, white, heterosexual “male lesbians”. Transgenderists were represented at a rate 11 times greater than their demographic in “the LGBT”. All are white. All are male. All are heterosexual. All are middle-aged white males who recently wanted to be lesbians. All had been (or still were) married to women as heterosexual males

Not only are fetishist transvestites ten a penny, they are even more male, entitled and threatening than your average man.

I honestly think the first peak trans leads to this inevitable destination of proper peak trans.

We think we have reached the peak but we still keep on going with the "silent majority of normal trans aren't like this". But it isn't true. Once, long ago, when trans=transsexuals and didn't include cross dressers, it was true. There was a tinier than tiny, but very vulnerable, population of refugees from manhood.

Today, the trans umbrella has included the cross dressers and told them that they are as trans as anybody else. Not only that, it has told them that there will be no more gate keeping because gate keeping is literal violence.

Today's trans population is 80% cross dressers and 20% transsexuals. There is no silent majority. There is a minority keeping their heads down.

Follow this logic and add in the information that cross dressing is the most common paraphilia among sex offenders and this explains why 50% of TIMs currently in prison are sex offenders.

It isn't a rare possibility that this movement will increase risk to women and girls: it's an absolute certainty.

Lesbians are the canaries in the mine.

Gender trender is good for the comments. Those women don't hold back.

Summarised:

Lesbians are 'the underlying problem'

'hostile to males who want sexual contact'
'dismissive of male attempts to hook up'
'males excluded from access to lesbian bodies'

While calling on LGBT organisations to 'take action against this problem'.

The writer points out that demanding LGBT groups 'take action' is (to the TIM who wrote this and self defines as a lesbian) not as insane as it sounds since, out of multiple examples of internationally known LGBT organisations taken over by TIMs and non platforming/speaking out against lesbians 'act of violence' in refusing to sleep with TIMs, GLAAD (Gays and Lesbians Allied Against Deformation) in May 2014 was controlled by middle-aged, white, heterosexual “male lesbians”. Transgenderists were represented at a rate 11 times greater than their demographic in “the LGBT”. All are white. All are male. All are heterosexual. All are middle-aged white males who recently wanted to be lesbians. All had been (or still were) married to women as heterosexual males.

Wow, this is horrific. The amount of entitlement to it, like any woman should be happy to drop her knickers for them, whether she's straight/gay/just doesn't want to have sex with them. I don't know where it's all going to end, I used to have sympathy for people trapped in the wrong body, but it feels more and more like it's the worst type of man using transsexualism as an excuse to get their own way with literally anything. Want to perve on women in the changing room? Pretend you're a woman! Want to prey on vulnerable women? Pretend you are one! It's like women's rights never happened.

Gender trender is good for the comments. Those women don't hold back.

I love it. It's frequently harsh but so refreshing not to be gaslighted. The comments at Feminist Current are similar. And on both, transactivists often pop in.

No one is entitled to access to a woman's body unless SHE says so. Doesn't matter if they are male, female, trans, black, white or sky-blue pink.

The Gendertrender article was excellent. I couldn’t read all of —Wayne— Dana Beyer’s article because my blood pressure couldn’t take it.

Cross out error there, stupid phone, but you get the idea

That is frightening!

Although true, saying that no one is entitled to have sex with anyone, doesn't cut it for me.

Because it implies that this is an individual decision, based on the two people concerned.

When in actual fact, it's a wholesale denial of sexual orientation. Both homosexual and heterosexual.

A lesbian must be able to say I won't sleep with a transwomen because they are men.

And that includes every single one of them.

I can categorically say I would never sleep with a transwoman. Because of my profound disagreement with the ideology. Anyone who believes in it, would get a no from me.

And I could never fancy a man who thought he was a woman.

Same as I would never sleep with a paedophile.

And guess what, it's not discriminatory. Ffs.

There is nothing in the equality act that says it's discriminatory to exclude people as sexual partners.

Because the opposite is coercive sex or rape.

Ugh. Just ugh.

In the 'rot' section in actually refers to Lesbians as people who are hostile to males who want sexual contact. Not even hiding behind the fig leaf of 'transwomen' - no its actual balls out use of the word 'male'. I mean what the fuck does this person think a lesbian actual is ?

That someone would feel so confident in their own entitlement to any woman's body that they would publish this is terrifying. That there are men who think women refusing to have sex with them is a problem - a form of oppression, and that women's ( particularly lesbian's) bodily autonomy can be describes as 'the rot' is, well , terrifying

This is both frightening and all to common.

Trans is a modern movement of men's sexual rights - I think some of it is an enjoyment of possessing a whole woman to the extent that they can be worn as a costume. The violence of the language of porn sex has gone one logical step further. Also, porn and a culture of objectification has dehumanised woman to the extent that we are mere costume, we have lost what tiny bit of humanity we had in the eyes of some men. That is why the lady brain argument and the 'live as a woman' gain so much traction. What does 'live as a woman' mean. Myself, Myra Hindley (when alive) and the Queen all live as women, other than biology what does that mean? What do we share?

I watched a terrifying programme on 4OD called something like 'maskers' or living dolls. One man on their actually says how he loves being inside of a woman. No content warnings other than it is creepy as hell.

What is terrifying is the "risk assessments" done by Scottish Women's aid etc have been blinkered to this and have assumed that the proportion of TIM is tiny with no concept of AGPs

In the 'rot' section in actually refers to Lesbians as people who are hostile to males who want sexual contact. Not even hiding behind the fig leaf of 'transwomen' - no its actual balls out use of the word 'male'.

I found that quite shocking too.

It’s scary.

Article is from 2014. In those days it was normal to say that a transwomen are women but they aren't female. Now they say transwomen are female; transitioned transwomen are cis women; transwomen are AFAB since they've always been women etc.