I am about to ID as a man

[YesItsADebate]

In 1.5 hours, I will be identifying as a gay man who does not conform with male gender stereotypes. I expect my local leisure facility to comply with the Swim England guidelines and agree that I am entitled to access the men-only swimming sessions, the male showers and toilets and to wear swimming trunks. I also expect them to re-educate any other man who objects to any of the above.

In other words, I have a meeting with the local swimming pool at 10 to see whether or not I’ll be resorting to topless swimming and public nudity tonight in an effort to prove my point that the Swim England guidelines are ridiculous

Wish me luck!

YesItsADebate

You are a truly amazing person. I belive that today on this Mumsnet thread we have all read and witnessed the begininning of something very special. I applaud you. Thankyou.

YesItsADebate for man of the year

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminist_activism/3176371-Whos-up-for-a-self-ID-day-of-activism - new thread for anyone interested.

Man Friday.

MunchausensLovelyHorse OMG that is brilliant

And bravo to your dignity and manner in the way you are doing this.

I can’t find the post where someone asked about my MP. I met with him to ask about his position on self-ID and make my opposition clear and brought up this plan then. He’s supportive of my plan to highlight the practical implications of self-ID.

'Man Friday' sounds like the premise for a campaign...

OP You rock

I wonder if Object would promote Man Friday as a campaign? I will suggest it to them.

Brave.
Take care.

OP sir, you are a rockstar.

Have joined this late but wanted to say how brilliant you are OP.
Thank you!!
And thanks for thread which I will watch with interest!!!
Here are some manly flowers for you (“boyquet”?)

You're an absolute s/hero OP. I'd be up for some topless swimming if required. (Despite the fact my boobs reach into the next postcode and I wear a bra 24/7 as it's too uncomfortable to go without).

Best. Thread. Ever.

And men get listened to

As does money. If self-id can be shown to have a significantly detrimental impact on businesses (which it will) that could hold back legislation too.

It's FRiday now, just sayin'

I may spend this evening sitting on the sofa in just my pants scratching my balls and watching football (yet I know that's a gender sterotype and I don't care!)

Bravo OP.

"This just gave me a flashback rage to when my ex told me that he didn't like looking after our then-small DS as it was "boring". OF COURSE IT'S FUCKING BORING. IT'S EYEWATERINGLY, SOUL-CRUSHINGLY BORING."

Oh no it's not, if you do it properly! But then, I'm probably biased, given my job.

When DH used to take DS to toddler groups, in the years before Mens groups were set up, he felt very excluded. So I did feel that a men's group was a good thing.
Personally, my problem is that there isn't the funding available for all the groups. I think we'll only break down social barriers when targeted groups don't feel singled out and patronised, and the others don't feel resentful.

However, I'm derailing Op's thread

You are an absolute hero

I know that's a gender sterotype and I don't care

That's the point though, isn't it? TRAs are presenting as "stereotype women" and are open about it.

I've lost count of the number of Twitter comments I've seen from TRAs that basically say "I'm a better woman than you are"

Just to say OP you are completely awesome!

Wonderful.

I'll gladly join an en masse swim.

OP, you are a true inspiration.