Lots of feminists on radio/TV today re Women's Aid/Refuges

[BeyondWitchbitchterf]

Karen ingala-Smith vs India "I'm a real woman" Willoughby on Good morning Britain (ITV)

Dr Nicola Williams vs Aimee "non-man of the Green Party" Chanellor on Nick Ferrari (LBC) - this was brilliant and well worth a listen, if you only pick one!!

Karen and India round two on Julia Hartley-Brewer (talk radio)

#indiawillybpeaktransnarcissim

I thought Karen came over really well - it must have been difficult to talk over IW's "real women" mememe talk without sounding rude - but she managed to be assertive and remarkably calm.

And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men! There's only one kind of person who can look at that website and feel sorry for men .........

kareningalasmith.com/

The oxygen of publicity just exposes the misogyny so well.

'And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men'

You're right. Dear god,the arrogance and the narcissism. Shocking

india's argument basically boiled down to 'women should suck up being abused and murdered and stop making such a song and dance about it'

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Well IW has shown her true colours there hasn't she. Absolutely zero concern for the needs of the women who are directly affected by this, plenty of waffling on about NAMALT.

Make of that what you will.

And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men! There's only one kind of person who can look at that website and feel sorry for men .........

What did India say? Is there any way she has been misinterpreted here? How can anyone look at Counting Dead Women and say they feel sorry for men? Sorry for them in what way, I don't get it?

Like, it makes me cross when people say that #metoo makes things hard for men as they don't know how to react etc, and I really don't agree, but I can see what they mean.

I don't understand what IW meant by that comment?

I have found her quote?

Did she mean 'women' when she said 'men'? (I mean we know this stuff is a minefield these days!)

Did she mean she feels sorry for men that they act in such a terrible way? But she neglected to mention women?

The mind boggles.

No she explicitly said she was sorry for men because they were being 'demonised'

It was along the lines of “I look at your website and feel sorry for men”

OMG IW is clearly team penis!
Go GO GO the Patriarchy!

No she explicitly said she was sorry for men because they were being 'demonised'

Ah, I see. Wowzers, I gave IW the benefit of the doubt there didn't I?!

Counting Dead Women basically documents the women murdered by men in the UK.

So what IW is saying is that women shouldn't ever talk about the violence against them by men, even if its just yo document the facts, because it 'demonises' men.

Woah. Fuck.

Is the Nick Ferrari one online do you know?

Have tried searching but cannot find anything to do with todays show. I am not expecting others to google for me, google seems to show nothing. Just..someone may have a link already. I am not lazy, honest

BeyondWitch Thanks for that stat.

Interesting that our words and questions are "literal violence" againt TIMs but the actual real violent murder of a woman by one of their own is never mentioned.

No she explicitly said she was sorry for men because they were being 'demonised

How much more misogynistic can you fucking get than that attitude???

I am so so so fucking angry at that.
HOW FUCKING DARE HE TURN THE MANY VIOLENT DEATHS OF WOMEN INTO A POOR MENZ THING!!

And yeah....I will never call him "she" while he has the fucking audacity to minimize and dismiss the very real violence against the sex ge professes to want to fucking be.

If you really identify with women IDENTIFY WITH OUR FUCKING OPPRESSION

I am literally boiling with fucking blinding, white hot fury.

LBC podcast repeats are subscription only, but I’m sure someone is recording it.

I can do it just with my phone if no one more tech savvy comes along

Karen Ingala Smith is AMAYZING I follow her blog and on Twitter - It's hard going sometimes, and I can't imagine the emotional cost to her.

But she is heroic in naming and giving respectful accounts of the lives of the 2 to 3 women murdered by men each week. She names the women and writes about them as full human beings, not just as victims.

It's important work.

AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH

Fucking cunting wankstains

radio with JHB soundcloud.com/mossmiss-1/karen-ingala-smith-with-india-willoughby-on-talk-radio-with-julia-hartley-brewer

(I spent the morning live videoing radio shows on my iPad, with my phone to Facebook )

(But obv this is not the best quality)

I don't WANT to agree with Piers Morgan!!

IW is a raging mysoginist.

I will never call him "she"

Sorry about that. I wrote it unthinkingly and then hesitated given the context and then left it because the irony of the whole situation kind of drives it home.

I'm with you though

LaContessa I know!

I feel somehow unclean.

It's a mad fucking upside world where I agree with Piers Morgan and my fellow lefties think I'm a bigot.

I said this on another thread but....

Seriously Charlie Brooker I don't like this Black Mirror episode........you can stop now.