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SophoclesTheFox · 19/01/2018 19:44

The conversation is far from over on this...

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Datun · 21/01/2018 00:59

Also, when you email, send a hard copy in the post. Write on the email that you are sending a hard copy, and write on the hardcopy the date you emailed.

In this day and age, an actual piece of paper is harder to ignore.

Vicxy · 21/01/2018 02:42

Good luck getting a reply that actually addresses your concerns. My reply seemed totally generic and did not answer even one of the things I asked, instead waffled on about wanting to be inclusive and the struggles trans people face Hmm

My sisters reply was even worse. A lot of waffle about inclusivity and an accusation that she was a bigot..as she had added in about being called transphobic and put in a very awkward and potentially dangerous position by a transwoman who 'passed' while my sister was drunk, but she discovered when they were alone at her house that the 'woman' she had taken home had a penis and expected to use it. So alone with a drunk and horny male. It ended without her getting hurt mind, but word sharp spread about how she was a transphobic terf. Was the first time I had actually heard the word terf said out loud actually because of all that rubbish. She did not go out without my cousin for a long time. My cousin is a transwoman, and was setting people straight about it all. Was a stupid petty thing that went on forever. Bit of a rant there but yeah, seemingly generic reply with an added snipe about how her language sounded transphobic (I assume this was for using male insted of woman), a bit more waffle and then another transgender people fac a lot of discrimination from bigoted people.

AngryAttackKittens · 21/01/2018 07:40

put in a very awkward and potentially dangerous position by a transwoman who 'passed' while my sister was drunk, but she discovered when they were alone at her house that the 'woman' she had taken home had a penis and expected to use it. So alone with a drunk and horny male. It ended without her getting hurt mind, but word sharp spread about how she was a transphobic terf.

So she should have shagged the person in order to prove her right on credentials, and must be punished for not doing so? I mean, not that it's a surprise, but they sure are feeling confident that they won't face any consequences for being openly in favor of rape.

Datun · 21/01/2018 07:55

Vicxy

That's awful. It absolute should have been enough to have your MP spitting bloody nails. And if you want to name and shame them on here go right head.

Our MPs are accountable.

It's a frightening position to be in when you take time to write something that is so bloody obvious, and it's ignored.

And you're not alone, many people are getting a bog standard reply.

However, a significant number aren't.

So for anyone else, it's still worth it.

Also, I have read several accounts from women who got a bog standard, brush off reply, then made an appointment.

It appears that quite a few MPs don't actually read the letters, but give them to an assistant to deal with.

Perhaps a young, right-on assistant...

So a meeting is useful, if you do not get a satisfactory reply.

It feels onerous, but it's so very important.

Vicxy Flowers to your sister.

busyboysmum · 21/01/2018 09:45

I wrote to my MP Mike Kane. Several times in fact. Whenever anything new happens. He's now saying he won't reply to any more of my letters on the subject but if I want to come in and see him I can.

Datun · 21/01/2018 09:48

busyboysmum

Do it. Show him you are just a normal woman with concerns.

It's his duty to listen to you.

busyboysmum · 21/01/2018 10:16

I will. I've been waiting for the government to start the self id consultation but there's stuff going on within Labour I can raise now instead.

AbsintheFriends · 21/01/2018 10:18

That's brilliant Datun, thank you (for this, and everything else.) I'm cautiously optimistic that she'll be sympathetic at least, as I can see from her record that she's spoken out against FGM and cuts to women's services, and stood up in the house to challenge Toby Young's appointment a couple of weeks ago. So hopefully I'll get a more positive response than you and your sister got Vicxy. How fecking OUTRAGEOUS that he chose to see what happened to your sister as a negative reflection on her political correctness. Ye Gods. Angry

AngryAttackKittens · 21/01/2018 10:22

Men like that need to have the implication of what they're saying spelled out and thrown back in their face.

"So what you're saying is that women should have sex with people who they don't want to have sex with in order to avoid hurting the other person's feelings."

If they're going to be rape apologists then make them own up to it.

Datun · 21/01/2018 10:25

AngryAttackKittens

Completely agree. Make them say it.

Labour's woman's officer, who is male says they can get pregnant. Ask if they agree with that.

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 21/01/2018 11:52

Have you seen Jenifer James statement on Twitter this morning? I’ll post a screen shot. She sounds very despondent and angry- wonder if anything new has happened?

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Terrylene · 21/01/2018 12:07

That does not look good.

Datun · 21/01/2018 12:18

No it doesn't. I haven't had an updated email.

Jeez.

Popchyk · 21/01/2018 12:25

She sounds utterly pissed off. Attacked on all sides. Threatened with expulsion from the LP for suggesting that all-women shortlists should actually be for women.

I did see that she expects this clarification on AWS on Tuesday this coming week after a Labour NEC meeting. So I'd be surprised if she's heard anything official yet on a Sunday morning.

Terrylene · 21/01/2018 12:30

Maybe someone should tweet her a kitten or two?

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 21/01/2018 12:44

Please tweet something nice to her

ATeardropExplodes · 21/01/2018 12:52

Google drive evidence that Liam and the weird one from Bexhill are collating to get people kicked out of the Labour Party.

drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZPe1HxoOnR6GP3_gUxU-6Rxdz5cp7Ao1

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 21/01/2018 12:56

How do you know it's them?

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 21/01/2018 12:57

Wow teardrop that’s a creepy little folder, isn’t it?

Terrylene · 21/01/2018 12:59

What does google drive do?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/01/2018 13:02

How do you know it's them?

See also: m.facebook.com/groups/1573109619432722/

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/01/2018 13:03

What does google drive do?

It's a way of storing / collaborating on documents online

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 21/01/2018 13:04

Shares folder. It has tweets of known rad fems. It belongs to Aisling Musson

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/01/2018 13:04

How do you know it's them?

Also, if you click on the "i" icon next to the folder it's tells you who can edit - this correlates with the list of group members.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/01/2018 13:06

Shares folder. It has tweets of known rad fems. It belongs to Aisling Musson

Who is the admin of the Labour against Transphobia Facebook witch hunt group