I stand corrected Lilly M can get pregnant

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I asked for a thread to be pulled as I thought I had made a mistake and that Lilly Madigan was in fact just joshing about being able to get pregnant but no...

Lily Madigan Dec 28
‏Womb implants are now possible. It's quite exciting. Expensive currently but yes if I wanted to in the future, reasonably I could get pregnant x
"I think you are unintentionally being transphobic. I can get pregnant. Not right now, which is true of many women. Please don't single me out" Lilly s own words.

twitter.com/madigan_lily/status/946555952303570944

I don t want this to be about LM as such but I think that some parts of the trans community have no idea of the medical implications involved in transition....

Well as we all know, neo vaginas are impossible to tell apart from natal women's vaginas

Actually they are better as they don't bleed or seep. They are much cleaner, and less smelly and icky. Apparently.

Lily is a horrid individual who publicly made his brother take the rap for the 'Jimmy Saville' joke on Twitter and accompanying photo so as not to spoil the 'poor me, I'm just a sweet, innocent teenage girl' persona. He also regularly shames his family publicly on Twitter and TV, despite the fact that they still allow him to live under their roof.

And now reckons he can get pregnant? He is either a massive troll or thick as shit. Either way, not fit for an elected position in the Labour Party. A party which should be taking a long hard look at themselves right now.

Seriously wonder if Liam is just doing all this to see just how right on people will fall over themselves to be, and is secretly just laughing at them all.

Lily is 19 not 13 so can we stop this ridiculous teenage bullshit nonsense and state the irrefutable fact that Lily is an adult who is capable of taking ownership of the never ending shite that they spout.

Lily is 19 not 13 so can we stop this ridiculous teenage bullshit nonsense and state the irrefutable fact that Lily is an adult

Actually, I disagree with this. Many many nineteen year olds are very immature, and incapable of adulting, Lily is one of these. I also suspect from the content of their tweets that they are also poorly educated, or have additional needs.

Lily is going to crash and burn very publicly, and TBH I think they should be pitied.

That twitter feed is interesting. I don't know much about very local politics, but Lily is very keen to ensure that they only engage with LP members, and refuses to engage with a particular poster because they can't verify if they are a member. Is this usual protocol? I thought the whole point of the women's officer role was to encourage more women to become members? How can you do that if you won't engage with non members? It seems that Liam isn't interested in engaging with anyone who won't fawn over him. What a load of shit.

Wow! Just when you think it all can't get any madder, it does.

Surely this is the final conclusion to the "if I say I'm a woman often enough, my biology will miraculously change and I will be a woman" idea.

Nice little sideswipe at "other" ie real women at the end

Lily is very keen to ensure that they only engage with LP members, and refuses to engage with a particular poster because they can't verify if they are a member. Is this usual protocol?

I know that my MP and MSP won't answer emails without first verifying that I am a constituent. I don't think Lily should be only talking to members, but I think she is correct on only acting on behalf of people in their constituency.

Logic gymnastics going on here!

Think of the potential society has if we guided and helped individuals such as Lily rather than just making horrendous comments at a teenager whose comments to me echo someone who needs help.

Except that helping someone does NOT also mean doing whatever they want you to do.
So it doesn’t automatically mean that we shouldn’t protect women from some trans women who are using loopholes to be able to hurt women.
The problem with this particular person is that they are VERY aggressive. Against anyone who dares saying they aren’t really a woman etc... This stuff about uterus transplant is about saying ‘Look I AM a woman because I will be able to children too. So you can’t tell ever again that I’m not a real woman’. It’s very aggressive and designs to squash people down.
No wonder people who are belittled are answering in kind!

As for them needing some help. Well can’t fault you there. But when the person is refusing to accept help saying it’s everyine else fault, what can you do? Bar trying your best to stop them hurting you (in this case yoU is all women btw)

I know that my MP and MSP won't answer emails without first verifying that I am a constituent. I don't think Lily should be only talking to members, but I think she is correct on only acting on behalf of people in their constituency.

Yes, I know that MPs have to verify that you are in their constituency in order to guarantee a reply/engagement, but you definitely don't have to be a member of the party for this. Does Lily mean constituency member rather than LP member?

Either way, they don't seem to have a problem engaging with 'comrades' when they are telling her how brilliant she is.

I do feel desperately sorry for LM and everyone else who is deluded like him. Imagine truly wanting to believe you are a woman, but with a constant niggling reminder that you can never be, ever. My pity stops though when they start trampling their size 9 feet all over women's rights and feelings.

Society is failing trans people at a terrifying rate by going along with the lie.

It's complete bollocks anyway. Transplants of embryos into a transwoman is against the law in U.K. 2008 embryology act I think.

Lily won’t be able to produce HcG, HpL, oestrogen or progesterone.

There is no way at present that hormone injections can be given to support a pregnancy. Even naturally pregnant women with low hormone levels can’t be helped and they go on to have a miscarriage as the pregnancy can’t be supported. Never heard of a doctor offering hormone injections to try and help. So no, she can’t get pregnant. Doctors are saying it may be possible to do a womb transplant but this does not mean a pregnancy can be supported.

When you consider the number of women across the world subjected to FGM, gang rape, unwanted pregnancy at young ages, untreated severe prolapses as the result of child birth and lack of medical access, death in child birth, repeated sexual abuse, I find a person wanting to become a respected politician (applying for Jo Cox leadership programme) saying these statements publicly extremely narcissistic, self centred and actually offensive to natal women who've experienced the above listed atrocities.

This person may well need 'help and support' but my gosh they've no understanding of women's issues if they think it's appropriate to say thing like this in public when hoping to stand for women's issues.

It shows just how little Lily knows if Lily is comparing the non fertile part of a woman's cycle to being a man without a uterus and female hormones.

Apparently neo vaginas are really hard to keep clean as they do not clean themselves.

Does anyone know if you can still orgasm when a neo-vagina is created?

It’s like bloody Pinocchio, say “I’m a real boy” often enough and it will be so
However, I do wonder about who is behind this poor delusional individual, pushing her forwards to meet their own agenda. Probably the same people behind Jeremy Corbyn

PersianCatLady
I am not sure if you are referring back to my earlier comment about neo-vaginas being indistinguishable from vaginas....for the avoidance of doubt, I was being sarcastic. But there is material unloaded by pro-trans organisations claiming that Gynecologists cannot tell the difference and I find that untruth ridiculous, cruel and misogynistic.

StoneColdDiva
I didn't get your sarcasm because I never get sarcasm or humour.

Sorry about that.

On a previous post about this one poster had a lot of knowledge neo vaginas

PersianCatLady
I should apologize- sarcasm is hard to spot in print and this topic is so serious, i really should not use sarcasm. Sorry.

Hi i am a time traveller. I know time travel hasnt been invented in 2017 but at the pace of human advancement i fully expect it to be invented in my lifetime then i will be able to travel in time. I just cant travel right now. But dont tell me im not a time traveller.

Signed Zen (proud citizen of the 22nd century.)

Apologies for being flippant. I agree LM is a problem.

I was on twitter recently reading a trans debate and clicked on one of the contributors and on their twitter feed they had a really graphic video of them dilating their 'neo vagina' with really weird tweets and comments. It was horrible and not what I wanted to see!

All I can think about with Lily is the naughty boy scene from Life of Brian. And the crowd outside the window are his twitter followers.