The departure of dittany

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I only know that she has left, and in her post she didn't say much as to why, though some people can speculate and imagine why.

Quite a few days ago (last weekend I think) there were threads that pinpointed the lack of consideration that MNHQ has toward the sort of trolls that infest the FS section from time to time - different in nature and purpose to your average troll that infects MN from time to time.

It may well be that d. is in contact with regular posters whom she trusts. I don't know.

What I do know is that d. was a fabulous source of invigoration and illumination to a lot of posters, myself included, though we didn't always agree with her.

I would like a review from MNHQ of their current "talk guidlines" policy, in order that the FS is provided with a consideration that recognises the particular vulnerability that it experiences.

D. left for her own reasons - but this presents itself as a sort of 'test case' for MN to respond sensitively.

Would anyone agree and post here in support of this?

do keep protesting tbx,of course a misplaced coma or inference isnt jibe.no indeed its a casual conversation. will you apply same logic on moderated fem topics

Oh look frumpy is actually doing it now!!

How handy for this discussion. Because I said that views, outside one's comfort zone, might be worthy of discussion rather than personal attack, I'm being personally attacked.

You are a card frumpy!

beachcomber you're talking about an old episode where it was understood the 'Joke' was taken out of context.

The poster concerned was done to death did.

Feminism can't exist in a bubble.

for me, it's the fact that every discussion on the section has to go back to first principles every time. what is feminism, how are you not man-haters etc etc etc, and yet this having been explained ENDLESSLY the same people turn up again and again to derail. it has become an oddly tedious section, whereas when it started it was just amazing.

You can tactfully suggest anything you want SWT and i'll tactfully ignore the fact you suggested it.

If you think someone who said that all male porn stars are rapists is sane?

You just go right on ahead thinking that.

Jolly good - a bit of defending of the poster who jokes about rape too.

Very obliging.

Were you on the thread when it was stated that the poster could rape us and get away with it?

Were you splitting your sides or reporting it? I was there and I did the latter.

I hate these threads. Every time one is started, I have to get a new ironymeter. It's costing me a fucking fortune.

He never said that BC...you are still taking it out of context.

Did you condone the all male porn stars are rapists post when it emerged?

So what was the context that made joking about being able to get away with rape acceptable then? I'm kinda at a loss to figure out what that might be myself.

I have no idea what I said on the porn thread - I don't even know if I was on it. I would quite like a link to it so that I can check on the 'context'.

Oh yes swc is the one with the sense of entitlement .

Oh I'm not protesting sm.

I'm enjoying the fact that you assumed I meant you when I described a certain set of trollish behaviours as unhinged.

I never once accused you of it. You simply claimed ownership. Well done.

It's interesting that all these people have such strong opinions of how the feminist section should be run, when they're not feminists.

I'm off to tell the chicken keepers how to talk about chickens, even though the closest I get to a chicken is when I eat bits of one.

It's a theme of a thread that has been distorted. About issues of consent in porn iirc. Not that it matters really.

aitch i totally agree with you. it was wonderful and it was something worth protecting. floodgates opened to trolls which encouraged non trolls with just fancy a stir endlessly for weeks to join them and here we are.

I'm going to partake in some adult conversation that is less needy.

Here's hoping you piss mumsnet off enough that you have to open a closed site and feminism and womens rights can have real discussion.

no lenin because more trolls will come in to take their place (or the same ones with a new account) and what? another few months to get rid of them? and on and on. it's a target now.

no.aitch some on here only want affirmative posts and casually deride any other pov as derailer,troll,what bout menz

this attitude of cant say that here and expectation of whta constitutes acceptable post is skewed

halycon days on fem topics?not my recollection.at all
a cacophony of some calling troll etc to any dissenting pov is more like it

oh frump if you wanted to discuss on this section you would. you'd start posts and be active fgs. not just turn up to tell everyone they're mad/bad/wrong on a kick off thread.