Do you believe Charles Spencer about Charles Windsor's reported remark?

[OneLilacHedgehog]

Do you believe Charles Spencer that Charles Windsor said to him during a phone call "we'll forget her soon enough."

The only thing I can possibly consider is that both men were grieving and discussing the public out pouring of grief . They would both be upset by that, and the impact on william and Harry, and it's possible the king said something like 'Don't worry it will calm down soon.'

Which is not quite the same as 'she will soon be forgotten.'

CS has a vile history. Making money out of his sister is just horrid like him.

He should go to a group therapy session with the Markles. 'How to turn bitterness, guilt and resentment into something worthwhile like hope and kindness'. Maybe Netflix could fund it and obviously film it too with Oprah as a guest .

I wonder what his older sisters think. They seem a bit hapless tbf as they didnt intervene and stop the whole circus from progressing past the first date in the first place.

I bet he's begging people to go to the tabloids and support his gossip.

The Spencer family are totally dysfunctional, worse than the royals. If The King did say such a thing it has likely been taken out of context and tone. King Charles is very nuanced in his speech and says lots of things which are not meant to be taken at face value or literally.

I actually think the art of speech is being lost, people take everything bloody literally these days- I notice it a lot on MN where a post which is intended to be somewhat ironic, nuanced, or humorous is totally lost on many posters.

No, not in a harsh uncaring way. He may have said something, but meaning there'll be other news headlines and people will move on (not quite wording it right), maybe even meaning that'll help with family grief. It was awful at the time how much talk there was at the time on the tv, newspapers, funeral televised.

I don’t think a man who has divorced 3 wives and is no contact with 2 daughters should sling mud at KC. By all accounts Charles Spencer behaved appallingly to his ex wives. I’d take everything he says with a huge pinch of salt.

Agreed. If he said anything like that it would have meant to be comforting - like the public grief petering out.

I don't trust either men. Both treated women badly. Also not leen on Laura K. Trying to have an Emily Matlis moment!

I dont think an intelligent and educated man who wrote a serious book about child abuse at boarding achool is suddenly going to sit down and write a pack of lies to make a few quid. It would tarnish his integrity as a writer apart from anything else. Most of us arent in a position to speak on these matters, but for the sake of posterity it's good that people close to the top are willing and able to tell it like it is instead of us all just having to swallow all the PR guff all the time.He's a serious person. Not a celebrity golddigger.

I can imagine him saying it in a cynical way when discussing the hysteria that followed Diana's death, saying "don't worry, they'll forget her soon enough". It would a comment on the fickleness of the public.

I think if anything was said it was perhaps referencing the public hysteria rather than anything disrespectful.

Yes, I believe Charles Spencer. I also believe he was right about the paparazzi having a hand in her death, despite the subsequent cover-up and desperate hunt for someone else to blame.

LOL!

Intelligent and educated? Too bad he didn't learn to control himself with all his ex-wives, mistresses, girlfriends and his known temper with him. Then there is his long lasting love affair with the bottle.

The man is a toad and I believe nothing he writes unless others back it up.

She wasn’t wearing a seatbelt in a car being driven by a drunk driver.

See my post of 08:28

And sorry, without wishing to sound disrespectful, this is indeed very difficult for KC while he has cancer, but life is tough, and if you do things like marry a nineteen year old as a thirty-two year old man in the full knowledge that you are in love with someone else, and it’s all a disaster, and this in part leads to her ostracism from your protected enclave, and makes her vulnerable to play boys and fraudulent journalists … and then she dies … well karma is a bitch.

Life rarely lets you off the hook. If your behaviour hurts people, it nearly always catches up with you in the end.

And if you cause hurt to others then very often the universe, or in this case, Charles Spencer, will bite back.

So you forget about the drunk driver and Diana not wearing a seat belt?

I could believe Charles Spencer thinks that's what Prince Charles (as was) said. I doubt that was what was actually said.

As for him supposedly sounded 'giddily elated', well, shock does strange things to people. I could believe he may have sounded that way to Spencer. But I also doubt it corresponded to an internal state whereby PC was doing a jig at the demise of his bothersome ex-wife. Certainly not just before or after he's had to tell his sons their mother is dead. Both PC and CS would have been in shock at the time.

I'm anti-monarchy through and through, would never toady to the Royal Family. I want to read the book, but will try and order it through Libby on my Kobo. Imagine the queue will be a mile long so could be a while.

He is clearly a gold digger even selling to the Daily Mail. I wonder if he's ever heard of the word irony as it is indeed ironic that his grubby tales are being paid for by the very paper poor Harold tried and failed to take to the cleaners.

He doesn't know the meaning of the word integrity ask any of his many ex wives and estranged offspring.

He is an odious, grabby man and I hope he gets his just desserts and someone does a tell all about him.

He may have had an expensive education but what on earth makes you think
he’s intelligent ?

Oh give over.

I saw one of her sisters, Jane I think, being interviewed about this and and she said that Diana was always absolutely consistent and rigorous about wearing a seat belt, and for all the years she had known her she had always put one on, and it remains a complete mystery why that night was different.

I don't think there was a cover up to Dianas death...I think Diana's death was caused by her choosing not to wear a seat belt, a driver under the influence of alcohol and a car travelling at high speeds. Thats it really.

It's believable that at a time of great emotional turmoil someone could make an inappropriate or ill-judged remark.

It's equally believable that someone in the same state could misconstrue what was said to them.

We cannot possible know where the truth lies & any discussion is pure speculation.

The only indisputable fact is that CS has a book to promote. Perhaps the need to include some Royal gossip allowed him to remember and include, word for word, a phrase used in a conversation held almost 30 years ago.

He jumped the shark though with his giddily elated & won the lottery remarks.

The exclusive serialisation rights to the Mail, help the sakes as it the juicy bits make people want to buy the book to see what else is in it.

You have a one-sided view of it all.

Charles had no hope of marrying Camilla- she was married.
But how many people get married still having feelings for an old flame? One whom their parents forbid them to marry as they were not suitable? And who were under huge pressure to find a wife and produce an heir.

And whose pool of 'respectable' women was limited because they weren't virgins (in 1984 FGS!), were not C of E, were divorced or whatever.

You're making your comments without looking at everything that went on.

AND where were Diana's family, sisters, friends telling her to rethink marrying the first man (almost) she dated, who was 13 years older, she barely knew him, and with whom she appeared to have little in common?

The blame doesn't fall one way.