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Royal row between King Charles and Earl Spencer 2

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Viviennemary · 18/09/2026 14:17

Buckingham Palace have said they won't be commenting further on the book. But I expect plenty of others will be and it's not even published yet so I started this second thread. I really liked Diana and thought she got treated shabbily by Charles. But really writing a book of gripes 30 years later is not on imho. I noticed on the news Harry declined to comment on it. Sensible decision for once.

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TheRoyalInkPot · Yesterday 13:03

PetulaGordeno · Yesterday 11:27

I have just seen Spencer putting his foot down that he’s telling the truth.
And I’ve got an episode of Jeremy Kyle in my head. Bouncers at the back ready for agg.
Chas Spencer bowling on, does a lie detector test. Results after the break.
Chas Windsor comes on and gives him what for. Camilla has to hold him back as he chucks a chair.
Harry and Meghan make a brief appearance.
She Markles herself.
Graham ‘the genius’ comes on at the end and sits on those little steps. Someone agrees to go to rehab - take your pick - and there is car waiting around the back.
Meghan runs off sobbing backstage and Jezza follows her.
I would definitely tune in.

Thank you this is brillsnt.

roxyro · Yesterday 13:03

It was KC who was very vocal to the Queen that Diana have a state funeral. She wasn’t strictly entitled to one. They were divorced and Diana would have likely remarried at some point and doubtless Charles would have gone on to marry Camilla.

Don’t know if this has already been said but Diana’s family weren’t very good to her. Her sisters, father and mother all knew what she was letting herself in for when they allowed her to marry Charles. They were all for it.

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:10

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 12:56

I think the royals should pay for this. The Spencers rightly paid for the Diana memorial on the althorp estate. The other Diana memorial, the water feature, was paid for by public subscription.

Who paid for the statue in KP gardens?

Linnende · Yesterday 13:16

Butteredtoast55 · Yesterday 11:24

Quite. For people who advocate the 'be kind' approach and talk so much about understanding mental health issues, H&M sure don't seem to have much regard for other people's.

I think Harry does, what Megan tells him!

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:18

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:10

Who paid for the statue in KP gardens?

The Princess Diana Statue: Located in the Sunken Garden of the palace, this sculpture was commissioned and paid for by her sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, who raised private funds via a committee to create the memorial

TorroFerney · Yesterday 13:24

Ukisgaslit · Yesterday 09:47

@CoffeeCantata

That William called his mother paranoid is his shame to bear .
He, like you, is totally unqualified to do so
His words were I believe that Bashir ‘contributed’ to her paranoia . Ie that she was paranoid before that

Utterly disgraceful thing to say about his mother .
She was not paranoid . Her fear and distrust was justified

I call my mother (not to her face) a lot of things and I can assure you I am right. Diana was mentally unwell, what's wrong with saying that? What an odd take that someone who lived with her, who was her child didn't know her and you, some random on the internet (as I am also) gets to tell her son he should be ashamed.

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:27

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:18

The Princess Diana Statue: Located in the Sunken Garden of the palace, this sculpture was commissioned and paid for by her sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, who raised private funds via a committee to create the memorial

Ta 👍🏼

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 13:30

TorroFerney · Yesterday 13:24

I call my mother (not to her face) a lot of things and I can assure you I am right. Diana was mentally unwell, what's wrong with saying that? What an odd take that someone who lived with her, who was her child didn't know her and you, some random on the internet (as I am also) gets to tell her son he should be ashamed.

She had bulimia. She was not a crazy ex wife. It was utterly disgraceful of William.

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 13:32

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:27

Ta 👍🏼

Paid by subscription. It states how the funds were raised.

The Diana water feature was paid for by public subscription.

The Diana memorial at althorp was paid for by the Spencer family.

Unlike Elizabeth's memorial that will be paid for by the taxpayers.

gishgalloping · Yesterday 13:34

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 13:30

She had bulimia. She was not a crazy ex wife. It was utterly disgraceful of William.

No. It wasn't.

He's entitled to discuss his mother and his experiences with her however he likes. He knew her, you didn't.

You just don't like what he's saying, that's all.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 13:35

Flufffluff11 · Yesterday 12:49

Grief is interesting.

When my father died, I didn't feel any sadness.

Then I had to get into long discussions about my fathers funeral, will and inheritance and I began to feel, sadder and sadder. It's like people were telling me he was dead and it was really sad, when I actually felt like he still existed somehwhere.

I work with teenagers now and one of the teenagers dads died by suicide. I went to talk to her on the day. She said that she was fine, he was in a better place and she had a lot to still do in her own life which would make him proud

The staff were asked to check in on her every day, and I noticed after a week of people constantly talking to her about her fathers death, she was much sadder and in a worse place

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My dad was buried in a plot with other family members. I coped with the funeral but when I left the cemetery I r remember being overcome with a sense of betrayal - we’d left him out there in the cold ground when he should have been at home with us. Of course this is daft but you just don’t know how you’re going to react until the moment.

noonames · Yesterday 13:35

foxylady2 · Yesterday 12:11

The reason Harry has done what he has is because he married for love, and he puts his wife - the mother of his children - above all else. That has ultimately created the bind in which he now finds himself. He saw, all too painfully, what the Institution did to his mother, and he was determined that history would not repeat itself with his own wife and family. And, having been effectively abandoned by his family, he now has to sing for his supper to earn his own living and build a future for his wife and children. That isn't some grand act of rebellion or perfidy; it is what he has to do to survive outside the system he was born into.

“Effectively abandoned” 🤣
Leaving aside all the shit they’ve pulled, the lies, the reputational damage they have caused to the RF and the UK, they chose not to be working royals, they chose to move abroad on their freedom flight, they chose to be financially independent (apart from Charles bankrolling them for a year which of course Harry then lied about), and now they have chosen to return “as private citizens”. In what way has Harry been abandoned by his family?

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:37

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 13:32

Paid by subscription. It states how the funds were raised.

The Diana water feature was paid for by public subscription.

The Diana memorial at althorp was paid for by the Spencer family.

Unlike Elizabeth's memorial that will be paid for by the taxpayers.

Well, to be fair QEII was Head of State for 70 years..

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 13:39

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 13:30

She had bulimia. She was not a crazy ex wife. It was utterly disgraceful of William.

How can you say that? It’s shockingly callous. Why this cruel attitude to William - he was Diana’s son too, and bore the burden of her emotional state far more than the younger Harry.

What has that poor man done to deserve anyone saying he was a disgrace? He’s m genuinely shocked.

noonames · Yesterday 13:40

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:02

They won’t, of course that’s a given. The Windsors and others before them have a history of tightness going back centuries, and we, the taxpayers, are paying rent to William on an abandoned prison on Dartmoor while he goes litter-picking on the beach for a few minutes.
And let’s not forget Queen Mary, who had a rather unfortunate habit of simply helping herself to things she fancied when visiting stately homes. Apparently, if something caught her eye, the concept of “not belonging to you” could become remarkably flexible.
Some things really do seem to run in the family.Kings weren’t given their power they took it at the point of a sword.

“Let’s not forget Queen Mary” 🤣🤣
These threads are an absolute goldmine for new usernames. Can’t wait for the next thread, I already have ButeNonagenarianMadeMeGasp ready to go.

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:41

noonames · Yesterday 13:40

“Let’s not forget Queen Mary” 🤣🤣
These threads are an absolute goldmine for new usernames. Can’t wait for the next thread, I already have ButeNonagenarianMadeMeGasp ready to go.

😂
Yes we all remember Queen Mary! I'll never forget her opening our Community Centre!

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 13:42

In fact, I would have thought William’s witness is one of the most valuable and useful in understanding D’s emotional state in her last years. His comments should be respected.

God - if some random tried to tell me my experience of a relative wasn’t valid, I’d be furious and rightly so.

TheRoyalInkPot · Yesterday 13:50

Flufffluff11 · Yesterday 12:49

Grief is interesting.

When my father died, I didn't feel any sadness.

Then I had to get into long discussions about my fathers funeral, will and inheritance and I began to feel, sadder and sadder. It's like people were telling me he was dead and it was really sad, when I actually felt like he still existed somehwhere.

I work with teenagers now and one of the teenagers dads died by suicide. I went to talk to her on the day. She said that she was fine, he was in a better place and she had a lot to still do in her own life which would make him proud

The staff were asked to check in on her every day, and I noticed after a week of people constantly talking to her about her fathers death, she was much sadder and in a worse place

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It's also the time difference if we had recently been with someone then we have been in their orbit.
Only after time does the cold reality sink in etc

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:51

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:41

😂
Yes we all remember Queen Mary! I'll never forget her opening our Community Centre!

I hope you counted your spoons afterwards. I never believed the Queen’s electric-fire anecdote that she sat there shivering but was apparently too mean to have another bar on. And then there was the £37 million Windsor Castle fire restoration, with the costs ultimately covered through public funding mechanisms. Good old muggins here had already paid the bill and funnily enough I pay for house insurance every year. More fool me !

And now, if the rumours about abandoning Buckingham Palace turn out to be true, apparently the ticket money from opening it to the public would go to the taxpayer. Well, we certainly want that after all, it’s our money in the first place. They must think we’re complete mugs!

Of course Earl Spencer has to pay his own bills hence he hawks a 30 quid signed eulogy to his sister from the gift shop and writes books. Sovereign grants aka state benefits.

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:55

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:51

I hope you counted your spoons afterwards. I never believed the Queen’s electric-fire anecdote that she sat there shivering but was apparently too mean to have another bar on. And then there was the £37 million Windsor Castle fire restoration, with the costs ultimately covered through public funding mechanisms. Good old muggins here had already paid the bill and funnily enough I pay for house insurance every year. More fool me !

And now, if the rumours about abandoning Buckingham Palace turn out to be true, apparently the ticket money from opening it to the public would go to the taxpayer. Well, we certainly want that after all, it’s our money in the first place. They must think we’re complete mugs!

Of course Earl Spencer has to pay his own bills hence he hawks a 30 quid signed eulogy to his sister from the gift shop and writes books. Sovereign grants aka state benefits.

? Queen Mary died over 70 years ago.

OneLilacHedgehog · Yesterday 13:57

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 13:42

In fact, I would have thought William’s witness is one of the most valuable and useful in understanding D’s emotional state in her last years. His comments should be respected.

God - if some random tried to tell me my experience of a relative wasn’t valid, I’d be furious and rightly so.

William was a child and in boarding school. Of course he knew some things. But he was full boarding. Charles and Diana had joint custody.

So William only spent 9 weeks of every years holidays with Diana, plus visits to sports days and school events, and for afternoon tea.

Let's get 15 year old Williams knowledge of Diana's inner emotional state in perspective here.

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:58

OctopusFriend · Yesterday 13:55

? Queen Mary died over 70 years ago.

It was a joke - did she actually open your community centre ? Locally we have a hospital named after her.

Viviennemary · Yesterday 13:59

Earl Spencer himself mentioned Meghan in his latest spoutings. And said he could see similarities in how Harry and Meghan are being treated to the way Diana was. Then had the nerve to say the Palace had hit him below the belt in their response to his book. I just heard this on the news. He is stirring up as much trouble as he can and is not looking good imho.

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 14:01

Flufffluff11 · Yesterday 12:16

That's quite a crazy jump!

Why would I suggest that Diana was shipped off to Afghanistan, seeing as I've said that virginity tests also have happened in the U.K

Well you are also certain that the rf had Diana assassinated.🤷‍♀️

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 14:03

foxylady2 · Yesterday 13:51

I hope you counted your spoons afterwards. I never believed the Queen’s electric-fire anecdote that she sat there shivering but was apparently too mean to have another bar on. And then there was the £37 million Windsor Castle fire restoration, with the costs ultimately covered through public funding mechanisms. Good old muggins here had already paid the bill and funnily enough I pay for house insurance every year. More fool me !

And now, if the rumours about abandoning Buckingham Palace turn out to be true, apparently the ticket money from opening it to the public would go to the taxpayer. Well, we certainly want that after all, it’s our money in the first place. They must think we’re complete mugs!

Of course Earl Spencer has to pay his own bills hence he hawks a 30 quid signed eulogy to his sister from the gift shop and writes books. Sovereign grants aka state benefits.

This is a weird take.

As if the SG just goes on caviar and champagne.

Most of it will go to pay wages. I see the RF as a British industry employing thousands of people, some of whom are highly specialised craftspeople, and in maintaining historic buildings. I like that.

As for the pathetic politics of envy stance, iI despise it.

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