Royal row between King Charles and Earl Spencer 2

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Buckingham Palace have said they won't be commenting further on the book. But I expect plenty of others will be and it's not even published yet so I started this second thread. I really liked Diana and thought she got treated shabbily by Charles. But really writing a book of gripes 30 years later is not on imho. I noticed on the news Harry declined to comment on it. Sensible decision for once.

Do I think Diana could have been killed? Possibly. Do I believe she was? No. I remember seeing Charles distraught over the following day. He’s not that good an actor. Mark Philipps and Snowdon weren’t killed off. Not SF. And she’s worse!

Also what was the benefit? She was becoming increasingly unpopular, & they were coparenting well. I think her death, made it much harder for the RF tbh, for a few years. Even now it still resurfaces. I also can’t see them doing it to the boys. Just my opinion of course.

Being on a predominantly pro royal forum means it’s expected that someone would think the royal family had Diana assassinated?
im confused!

Right. So there was someone standing in the tunnel, risking their life to shine a light at a speeding car driven by a driver who was also risking his life. That’s very likely. And a pp has already debunked the light theory

There is a difference between not going with the herd as you put it, and trying to contort yourself in to proving something that on the balance of probabilities is a load of bollocks

Again, not what i wrote.

That poster said I'm the only person on this thread to believe this - that the Royal Family may have killed diana.

I then wrote, well as we are on a pro- Royal forum, that is to be expected.

I think the Spencers were expecting Diana to marry the heir to the throne, produce further heirs and then just put up with whatever the marriage brought. This was the old aristocratic and royal way - each partner might have affairs, but you stayed together and made an outward show of happiness.

Also they were very embedded with the RF - Jane was married to the Queen’s Private Secretary and Sarah had been a gf of Charles at one time. Ruth Fermoy, D’s grandmother, was best mate of the Queen Mother and they were both very instrumental in promoting the match.

I don’t think either D or C had a chance in those days!

The witness account said that two men on a motorbike shined a light into the car

Where did you get 'standing in the tunnel' from?

I certainly do NOT think that anyone killed Diana. In my opinion, and the official verdict, it was a tragic accident, resulting from a car being driven too fast by a driver who was over the drink driving limit.
If one had wanted to kill Diana, a car accident, in which one person survived, possibly being because he alone was wearing a seatbelt, is a very unlikely way of attempting to kill someone. How could you be sure that the driver would drive too fast, that Diana would not wear a seatbelt, etc It is just conspiracy theories because she was young and beatiful and died far too soon.
Prince Charles (as he was then) was distraught, and basically it put back any idea of him marrying Camilla for a number of years.
Diana said herself, that the early years of their marriage were very happy, until at least after Harry was born.

A load of bollocks 'in your opinion'.

Are you in your twenties and working a boring service job? Asking someone's age in a rude manner and the constant posting on MN leads me to think that of you.

Ok so given that we know that there were photographers there on motorbikes, what makes you think a white light from a motorbike would be part of an assassination?

Makes you wonder how Diana would have coped with daughters in law.

I am that poster! I know what I said!!

Have you ever driven through the Hatfield Tunnel, or similar? White lights coming at you from many directions.

Just let it go now. Yes, it’s your prerogative to believe a crazy, long-debunked conspiracy theory, but give it a rest.

You’re not going to convince anyone here.

It was not in the best interests of the RF for Diana to die young. Her constant stream of romances were getting old, and eventually she would become an aging grandmother. Having her die young and beautiful was much more destructive to them. Also, the RF are not monsters.

I know anti-Trumpers who are convinced their phone is tapped, etc. Paranoia is not restricted to the UK.

Yes, it does. She had some good qualities but she could also freeze people out and be nasty.

She fell out with Fergie because F joked that she’d caught a veruca a from her and she was no-speakies with her mum and Charles at her death.

A damaged person for sure.

A load of bollocks given the objective evidence

I hate, hate autocorrect. I’ve just noticed it’s changed Tiggy to Twiggy. Aaarrrggghh. But that might have worked better for everyone!

She wasn't very nice to Sophie when she began dating Edward.

It reminds me of the situation with Elizabeth the First and Robert Dudley. They flirted and may have wished to marry. Dudley was already married, with a sick wife. But when his wife mysteriously fell downstairs and died when she was alone in the house it made any thought of marriage out of the question because of the scandalous circumstances.

And I know what I said!

You asked me to clarify it, and I've clarified it again by writing the same thing that I wrote the first time. Get it now?

I think Diana (for all her good points) was very insecure and jealous.

Yes, she could be a very tricky person.

I have no idea what you are talking about at all! 🤷‍♀️

This is what you wrote!