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Ham pr disasters 40! ..the 40 by 40 anniversary edition!

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jeffgoldblum · 16/09/2026 19:10

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Ham pr disasters 40! ..the 40 by 40 anniversary edition!
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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 09:37

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Yesterday 09:21

I’m no fan of the gruesome twosome but I’m finding the picking apart of the security in order to find fault quite off putting.

And you’re correct to bring up there being more than one principal. This is the paragraph I forgot to add.

For four principals in a single car, having 2–3 protection officers is a common starting point for a moderate-risk arrangement, but the actual requirement should come from a professional security risk assessment

Are the children principals? Of course they are. But even if they weren’t the amount of security the HAMS are travelling with are appropriate for two principals - Harry and Meghan.

Do they have a need for this level of security? I doubt it but for sure we’ll know very soon if it’s all in their head or their paranoia is justified.

And since when is it wrong to ask questions?

Asking questions is fine, however I may be getting the wrong impression but it felt more like criticism, the comments are the same as always 🤷‍♀️

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IAmATorturedPoet · Yesterday 09:38

RevelationsMayVary · Yesterday 09:27

The other parents must be eye-rolling and pissing themselves laughing - these two clowns rolling in with their circus - it will be a spectacle of ridicule - I wonder if an absurd number of PPO keep coming out of the car, the horns honk and the doors fall off.

The clowns 🤡

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My eyes would be rolling that’s for sure.

Imagine having to witness that circus 🎪 every morning when you just want to drop and run on your way to the office.

Yet again I find myself posting that I feel sorry the A & L, who I’m sure want nothing more than to blend in with their class mates not stick out like sore thumbs.

smilesy · Yesterday 09:42

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Yesterday 09:21

I’m no fan of the gruesome twosome but I’m finding the picking apart of the security in order to find fault quite off putting.

And you’re correct to bring up there being more than one principal. This is the paragraph I forgot to add.

For four principals in a single car, having 2–3 protection officers is a common starting point for a moderate-risk arrangement, but the actual requirement should come from a professional security risk assessment

Are the children principals? Of course they are. But even if they weren’t the amount of security the HAMS are travelling with are appropriate for two principals - Harry and Meghan.

Do they have a need for this level of security? I doubt it but for sure we’ll know very soon if it’s all in their head or their paranoia is justified.

And since when is it wrong to ask questions?

It may be standard, but under what circumstances? It has already been said that the Waleses manage with one car. Given that the Sussexes security apparently failed to account for an ordinary level of traffic, I wouldn’t be too sure they have got this right either. How have they measured the level of threat without access to intelligence? It all seems to err more towards the performative rather than the necessary and was probably driven by the Principals imo. And it is quite possible that by over egging the security they have actually created a more dangerous situation. I think their security are between a rock and a hard place though. They may well advise one thing and the Sussexes will want to do another. They were quick to say that it was their security who had advised them that the school run was not safe, but we don’t know if that was before or after it was attempted. The Sussexes have form for abdicating responsibility to others

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WilliamsExtraSausage · Yesterday 09:43

11add1 · Yesterday 09:28

Why so much flipping security on the first day of school?
Did they expect to be ambushed by the PTA? Forcefully dragged into helping set up fund-raising coffee morning? Crowded in and compromised by a mob of year 3 boys and girls? Near catastrophic clash with the class teacher because Archie shows up with cheap sticker type name labels instead of hand-sewn woven ones?
They're acting like the prep school gates are an active combat zone.

Oh god, the nametapes. Two children x 2 schools in the same week. No wonder they need a lot of staff.

PrivateCitizenTooDimforDiplomacy · Yesterday 09:45

LaMarschallin · Yesterday 07:35

Indeed.
The whole description of the guards stepping out of the vehicles and opening the doors for the family to emerge reminded me strongly of those (s)wanky restaurants where the waiters all catch each other's eye before whipping the cloches off the food with an implied "Ta-daaah!".
How to show you really care about your children's school experience and how they'll fit in with their peers and make friends. Not.

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I wonder how long it will take Archie, who is seven, to start telling his parents to stop embarrassing him and to drop him off at the top of the drive so he can walk in with his friends. For a normal child I'd say about a year - age 8-9? However I fear poor Archie is likely to go the other way and be filled with his parents' anxiety and just refuse to go to school at all.

Am I right in thinking these children will already have been subjected to the active shooter/school lockdown training which sadly seems to be a part of most American children's school experience?

I also wonder what their parents will have told the children to explain the sudden change of school, after all the fuss and excitement of getting fitted for new uniform etc and the first two days. Will they have been told Mummy and Daddy were worried the drive into school was dangerous? or maybe some other weak excuse? "We just discovered how lovely this school just down the road is and we think you will love it there even more...."

elessar · Yesterday 09:47

I think it’s absolute nonsense to be honest.

I should be extremely surprised if the Wales’ kids were turning up at school in a convoy with security guards opening the doors for them. We’ve seen the literal King and Queen being driven around with less fuss than this.

This is just ridiculous posturing, and bound to make H&M very unpopular with the parents at their new school.

They’re trying to make a point, clearly, with this OTT approach, hoping it will influence RAVEC.

the pair of them can get in the bin.

PrivateCitizenTooDimforDiplomacy · Yesterday 09:49

I feel for the locals in the area where they are now living and roaring off in a convoy every day for the school run. I'd hate to meet them whilst innocently going on my peaceful bike ride through the lanes and local horse riders had best take note of school times and adjust their schedule accordingly. The main danger is hyped up drivers racing through the lanes and pushing through traffic calming to make sure they keep up with each other. Perhaps someone will notify local police and complain of 4x4 drivers having a race.

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 09:56

Do they have a need for this level of security? I doubt it but for sure we’ll know very soon if it’s all in their head or their paranoia is justified

Do you mean we'll know very soon as a result of the Ravec decision, @TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow?

I'm aware they don't announce decisions - though Harry will doubtless blab it - but unless they and everyone else delivers his heart's desire it seems likely the whole damned thing will kick off again with court cases and god knows what

Personally I'm hoping any kind of refusal will be enough to send them off to tantrum somewhere else, but maybe that's wishful thinking

Perhaps someone will notify local police and complain of 4x4 drivers having a race

Don't even go there, @PrivateCitizenTooDimforDiplomacy ... any 4x4 race would lend itself to another "catastrophic car chase" claim!! Hmm

IcedPurple · Yesterday 10:07

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Yesterday 09:21

I’m no fan of the gruesome twosome but I’m finding the picking apart of the security in order to find fault quite off putting.

And you’re correct to bring up there being more than one principal. This is the paragraph I forgot to add.

For four principals in a single car, having 2–3 protection officers is a common starting point for a moderate-risk arrangement, but the actual requirement should come from a professional security risk assessment

Are the children principals? Of course they are. But even if they weren’t the amount of security the HAMS are travelling with are appropriate for two principals - Harry and Meghan.

Do they have a need for this level of security? I doubt it but for sure we’ll know very soon if it’s all in their head or their paranoia is justified.

And since when is it wrong to ask questions?

I’m no fan of the gruesome twosome but I’m finding the picking apart of the security in order to find fault quite off putting.

But they have made their 'security' into a talking point. Not just in this instance but many times, over the past several years. Including a long, failed court 'case' defended at taxpayers' expense. Nobody else that I can think of has done such a thing. Ever.

So 'picking apart' those arrangements seems quite appropriate.

Many families far richer, more famous and more important than them take their children to school every day, in cities and towns all over the world. Not one of them has made a public fuss about their 'security'. Not one. If travelling to a private school with 4 'principals' requires high level security, causing inconvenience and delays to other families, maybe home schooling is in order. Or maybe go back to California. For some strange reason, they never seemed to have any problems there.

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:09

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 06:03

They are BOOKS ?

I thought they were floor tiles or something (maybe Harry doing the floor). Or place mats ?

What an odd thing to use books for. Laptops get really hot underneath. Nothing says "I pretend to work here" like using books as a laptop stand rather than... a laptop stand.

Look at the ergonomics of it. How does she reach the touchpad? And looking at the photo, she is sitting too far from the table to be using a mouse.Sure, there might be a mouse at her right hand, but looking at the photo her elbow won't be on the table.

Oh, and why are these laptops never plugged in ? She can't be spending hours working there, because there is nowhere to plug it in.

And the pen and paper. It's at the wrong side if she is right handed. Of course the servant maybe moved the pen to put the tray down, at her left side. So maybe she is left handed ? But that makes the touchpad/ mouse situation worse. Cos the tray is where the mouse should be, and if she reaches up for the touchpad, the sleeve of that jumper will go right into her cup of tea or knock it over.

Sorry, I am an amateur photographer, so I tend to over analyse photos.

It's defo staged. And not staged very well.

Is it not AI?

I don't even know what's real anymore 🫠

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 10:10

They have been here for 3(?) weeks . I am fairly confident that if it was felt they needed Met protection , it would have been instigated by now . Remember H’s sudden dash to see KC ; security was arranged for him then including his beloved outriders .

GroundCloves · Yesterday 10:10

As a tax-payer I think I am entitled to scrutinise the need when an individual demands we spend millions on them.

Williaminagingerwig · Yesterday 10:11

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:09

Is it not AI?

I don't even know what's real anymore 🫠

No, Meghan shared the picture, it was from her birthday. She launched something called 40x40. I don't know what happened to that.
The picture is real, she also shared one where Harry was juggling outside the window.

GroundCloves · Yesterday 10:11

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:09

Is it not AI?

I don't even know what's real anymore 🫠

I assumed it was.

ChrisTheBastard · Yesterday 10:12

Choux · Yesterday 08:37

If you need security then I would think you need security in the same vehicle as you. Not in the one behind. Or do both vehicles contain security personnel? Is the driver of the car the kids travel in security plus 1 or even 2 people in the 2nd vehicle?

I imagine the school change was effected quickly as they had already got knowledge of which schools had vacancies and had possibly already done a tour from their summer research. So they know their options once they decided the traffic to Dragon was an issue. But, unless they have a long lease on their current home it’s possible they will soon move elsewhere which could mean the kids need to go to a third school as this new school then becomes uncommutable. Poor kids.

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Nothing to add to the fine content of your post but I fucking love the use of effect as a verb. It's made me happy on a wet Thursday morning

Williaminagingerwig · Yesterday 10:12

GroundCloves · Yesterday 10:11

I assumed it was.

Well, if it is, that's down to Meghan.

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:14

WilliamsExtraSausage · Yesterday 09:43

Oh god, the nametapes. Two children x 2 schools in the same week. No wonder they need a lot of staff.

You jest but I was marooned on a Tombola stall by the PTA (which I'm not even in, for security reasons)

With no skills and no warning I had to sell tickets to the out of date Christmas biscuits (it was the May Day fete). It's just lucky we had no overpriced jam donated.

It's enough to make one flounce.

...off topic, apologies again <heartfelt-ish expression> 🚓🚓🚓 (motor cade for sincerity)

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:16

Williaminagingerwig · Yesterday 10:11

No, Meghan shared the picture, it was from her birthday. She launched something called 40x40. I don't know what happened to that.
The picture is real, she also shared one where Harry was juggling outside the window.

Ah ok. Now I understand.

It's not AI.

There's no intelligence.

Just artifice.

ChrisTheBastard · Yesterday 10:20

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:16

Ah ok. Now I understand.

It's not AI.

There's no intelligence.

Just artifice.

A stands for Absence (of)

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 10:25

IcedPurple · Yesterday 10:07

I’m no fan of the gruesome twosome but I’m finding the picking apart of the security in order to find fault quite off putting.

But they have made their 'security' into a talking point. Not just in this instance but many times, over the past several years. Including a long, failed court 'case' defended at taxpayers' expense. Nobody else that I can think of has done such a thing. Ever.

So 'picking apart' those arrangements seems quite appropriate.

Many families far richer, more famous and more important than them take their children to school every day, in cities and towns all over the world. Not one of them has made a public fuss about their 'security'. Not one. If travelling to a private school with 4 'principals' requires high level security, causing inconvenience and delays to other families, maybe home schooling is in order. Or maybe go back to California. For some strange reason, they never seemed to have any problems there.

I think it's reasonable to comment on their current security arrangements, given that they have already, within only weeks, released several 'updates' about security issues.

What I find much more annoying is that due to his court cases Harry has almost certainly increased the risk to the rest of the family, given that few people will have previously known that the working royals only received police protection when on official duty (other than the monarch, heir and family).

I would be interested to know (though I never will) if there has been any increase in active threat or if a change has been needed to any of their arrangements since the court cases started.

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:26

ChrisTheBastard · Yesterday 10:20

A stands for Absence (of)

Or Abeyance* 🙃

*Yes, it is my new favourite word, and no, I'm not exactly sure what it means, but I love it and will use it regardless. A bit like HaM and social media.

WilliamsExtraSausage · Yesterday 10:26

Is anyone going to take one for the team and buy a copy of SwanSong so that we don’t have to? I remember one particularly heroic mnetter who bought the book, actually read it and then précised it for us each day.

Volunteers please take one pace forward.

And hopefully this will be CS’s swan song and we never hear from the blighter again.

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 10:29

WilliamsExtraSausage · Yesterday 10:26

Is anyone going to take one for the team and buy a copy of SwanSong so that we don’t have to? I remember one particularly heroic mnetter who bought the book, actually read it and then précised it for us each day.

Volunteers please take one pace forward.

And hopefully this will be CS’s swan song and we never hear from the blighter again.

It’s being serialised in the DM starting at 5pm today .
Maybe I am mistaken but I thought after his 20th anniversary rant CS said Diana should now RIP ?
Anyone else remember?

AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 10:29

We’ve seen the literal King and Queen being driven around with less fuss than this.

There are plenty of stories of the late Queen, the present King and William out and about with minimal (visible) security.

Usernameinabeyance · Yesterday 10:29

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 10:25

I think it's reasonable to comment on their current security arrangements, given that they have already, within only weeks, released several 'updates' about security issues.

What I find much more annoying is that due to his court cases Harry has almost certainly increased the risk to the rest of the family, given that few people will have previously known that the working royals only received police protection when on official duty (other than the monarch, heir and family).

I would be interested to know (though I never will) if there has been any increase in active threat or if a change has been needed to any of their arrangements since the court cases started.

Also, most of us muggles are only actually bemused-to-irked by them. There isn't some malevolent force out there trying to get them.

Their combined ego/neuroses pose more of a threat to their well-being. And you can't solve that with a motorcade.