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Ham pr disasters 40! ..the 40 by 40 anniversary edition!

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jeffgoldblum · 16/09/2026 19:10

Still interested, still not bored!

Ham pr disasters 40! ..the 40 by 40 anniversary edition!
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JudgeJ · Yesterday 16:19

She launched something called 40x40. I don't know what happened to that.

She launches more than NASA!

ForAmberPoster · Yesterday 16:20

I hope no one buys that book - the two things that stick with me about that awful man are - 1 his wedding speech joke about his anorexic wife being thick and thin. 2 Patricia Guppy telling how he tried it on with her when her husband/his friend was in prison. He’s as arrogant and hypocritical as his nephew.

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 16:21

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 16:07

Forgive me if I’m being naive but surely spearheading a smear campaign against a judge of HM courts because you don’t like a verdict has to be illegal? , isn’t it?

I shouldn't think so. Smear campaigns happen all the time. Most are a bit more subtle than this one.

JudgeJ · Yesterday 16:22

WilliamsExtraSausage · Yesterday 10:26

Is anyone going to take one for the team and buy a copy of SwanSong so that we don’t have to? I remember one particularly heroic mnetter who bought the book, actually read it and then précised it for us each day.

Volunteers please take one pace forward.

And hopefully this will be CS’s swan song and we never hear from the blighter again.

Isn't it being serialised in the DM from tomorrow? Maybe someone can volunteer to read it there.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 16:22

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 16:18

I don't know, jeff, but believe it was "serenster* who explained that judges tend to roll with the inevitable insults and just see them as part of the job

Possibly a targeted smear campaign might be different if true, but again who's going to stop Harry when he's simply not amenable to reason?

True ! , but I can’t help but think others would not get away with half this behaviour!! 😡

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MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 16:24

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 16:14

IMHO, KC3 needs to severely sanction a disloyal Royal Duke...and stop using the Crown to indulge his petulant second son

I agree, @My2cents1975 - especially with the second sentence - but the issue is how

Certainly Harry needs the royal adjacency, but even ensuring he can never have it isn't going to work if he then carries on about them excluding him and his wife (cue more racism allegations)

They can't even try to insist the media don't cover H&M, because then the attempt would become the story, so at least for now they all seem a bit stuck with the monster they've enabled

I think the most Charles can do at this point is remove them from the website, which should have been done years ago. The precedent for removing titles is for far more serious offences.

Williaminagingerwig · Yesterday 16:29

JudgeJ · Yesterday 16:19

She launched something called 40x40. I don't know what happened to that.

She launches more than NASA!

😂😂

AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 16:34

AcrossthePond55. Many village schools are Church of England schools for historic reasons, but they are part of the state system, not private schools.

The Sussex children will be going to a small private (fee paying) school which happens to be in a village - or a private school which happens to be in a small village - but which won't be 'the village school'.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if many prep schools find they have no space in whichever years the Sussexes want.

PoorBlindAutumnCrow · Yesterday 16:43

Lifestooshort71 · Yesterday 13:47

There is a "Royal Row" going on already - I dipped my toe in and have scuttled back to familiarity. Some of what I read has left a really nasty taste tbh.

Some of the current threads' posters are clearly Sussex PR, along with a bunch of people who are getting all their facts wrong. The latter I can just about shrug about, but it's still annoying because it means it's harder to have a decent discussion about making the workings of the monarchy more democratically transparent. But the former - the Sussex PR machine in action - pisses me right off.

BemusedAmerican · Yesterday 17:01

KC needs to stop giving Harry money. Harry seems obsessed with lawsuits. If he continues to lose them, he will be in a major financial bind, not to mention his reputation will be worse than it is now. Sentebale will probably win, and it sounds as though he has really pissed people off going after the judge. He isn't hiring Sherborne again, is he?

If I were KC, I would pay school tuition directly to the school for the Hamlets and no more.

Gonners · Yesterday 17:02

I didn't get very far with that thread because early on there is a typo referring to one "early Spencer" and I went down a rabbit hole into the mists of time and this ...

BemusedAmerican · Yesterday 17:10

Swan Song won't be released on Kindle in the US until the 22nd. I'll look ar the price before I decide yo take one for the team.

I'm hoping the reddit crew will post archived links from the DM.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 17:11

PoorBlindAutumnCrow · Yesterday 16:43

Some of the current threads' posters are clearly Sussex PR, along with a bunch of people who are getting all their facts wrong. The latter I can just about shrug about, but it's still annoying because it means it's harder to have a decent discussion about making the workings of the monarchy more democratically transparent. But the former - the Sussex PR machine in action - pisses me right off.

I keep looking back at that thread despite myself. Almost like not being able to resist looking at a freakshow! There's one particular poster who is getting terribly emotional and insistent about gossip and rumours from 40 years ago! It's bizarre!

ETA Now they've moved on to talking about the Middletons' defunct business. Mess of a thread!

SqueakyDinosaur · Yesterday 17:20

Laydeez an' gennlemen, I give you... PART ONE

https://archive.is/gC58w

Pics are blurred but words are there.

This bit already caught my eye:

"My sisters knew that Diana had always wanted Mozart’s Requiem to be played for her, after her death. But when I passed this on, it was rejected as a possibility: ‘No part of a requiem can be played at a Church of England funeral,’ I was told.

I later found out that was not the case – the first of several untruths that the authorities would push my way at that time."

Well, I'd imagine he found out pretty smartish, as part of Verdi's Requiem was in the service itself.

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 17:24

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 16:24

I think the most Charles can do at this point is remove them from the website, which should have been done years ago. The precedent for removing titles is for far more serious offences.

Now the judiciary, civil service and associated agencies, and the press have been rubbished by Harry. Morally, those misdemeanours are not comparable to sex trafficking and, possibly, having sex with minors. Nonetheless, the monarchy has to consider how far Harry, a prince, a Duke and an HRH now resident in Britain, has to go before its own continuation is imperilled. Harry is unpredictable, not bright and vengeful. I think more is needed than removing the Sussexes from the website, especially now the monarchy is also being attacked by Uncle Charles.

11add1 · Yesterday 17:36

SqueakyDinosaur · Yesterday 17:20

Laydeez an' gennlemen, I give you... PART ONE

https://archive.is/gC58w

Pics are blurred but words are there.

This bit already caught my eye:

"My sisters knew that Diana had always wanted Mozart’s Requiem to be played for her, after her death. But when I passed this on, it was rejected as a possibility: ‘No part of a requiem can be played at a Church of England funeral,’ I was told.

I later found out that was not the case – the first of several untruths that the authorities would push my way at that time."

Well, I'd imagine he found out pretty smartish, as part of Verdi's Requiem was in the service itself.

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Looking back now, I suspect the prince’s first reaction must have been to think more of how this event might free him to marry the woman he loved, rather than appreciating the loss of one he did not.

Well, we all know now, where harry gets his bitterness and selfish spitefulness from. I suspect it's a Spencer trait.

Williaminagingerwig · Yesterday 17:38

11add1 · Yesterday 17:36

Looking back now, I suspect the prince’s first reaction must have been to think more of how this event might free him to marry the woman he loved, rather than appreciating the loss of one he did not.

Well, we all know now, where harry gets his bitterness and selfish spitefulness from. I suspect it's a Spencer trait.

Good grief, how unpleasant. Nearly 30 years on..

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 17:39

11add1 · Yesterday 17:36

Looking back now, I suspect the prince’s first reaction must have been to think more of how this event might free him to marry the woman he loved, rather than appreciating the loss of one he did not.

Well, we all know now, where harry gets his bitterness and selfish spitefulness from. I suspect it's a Spencer trait.

I’ve read it!! , it gets worse and he has absolutely no proof of anything he has written!!

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11add1 · Yesterday 17:41

Reading that diatribe, all I can say is Spencer is full of shit.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 17:41

And ….implying his father and queen Elizabeth might have been together if not for Mountbatten is a particularly low flight of fancy!!! , we know Elizabeth saw and fell for Phillip at age 14 ….so what is he implying about his father then!!!

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AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 17:42

I suspect it's a Spencer trait.

Lady Sarah and Lady Jane seem to manage to keep their heads down and get on with their lives without all the drama.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 17:47

Oh and Diana apparently thought Charles was in love with his valet!!! 🤔 …he was a man wasn’t he??

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Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 17:48

AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 17:42

I suspect it's a Spencer trait.

Lady Sarah and Lady Jane seem to manage to keep their heads down and get on with their lives without all the drama.

Like William

My2cents1975 · Yesterday 17:51

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 16:14

IMHO, KC3 needs to severely sanction a disloyal Royal Duke...and stop using the Crown to indulge his petulant second son

I agree, @My2cents1975 - especially with the second sentence - but the issue is how

Certainly Harry needs the royal adjacency, but even ensuring he can never have it isn't going to work if he then carries on about them excluding him and his wife (cue more racism allegations)

They can't even try to insist the media don't cover H&M, because then the attempt would become the story, so at least for now they all seem a bit stuck with the monster they've enabled

IMHO, the racism claims are already baked into the polling results and have been since Endgame. If HaM lean into the racism claims that nixes any chance of reconciliation...that is why H claimed that it was the British media that was responsible for the racism claims and walked it back to "unconscious bias."

The how is quite simple. Why did KC3 meet with H after H had insulted his judiciary? Imagine if KC3 had said no. Imagine if BP had briefed that the Duke was out of order insulting the judiciary and he has to apologise in writing and on camera before meeting the King.

I really do not understand the fear of the media. The media is in for the money and George's generation are aging in. With the Philips kids leading the charge you could argue that they have already taken over the teen/pre-teen market.

It is game over for HaM in under 5 years as tabloids would rather speculate on George's future Queen Consort versus rehashing the grievances of a 50-year-old. And cheeky chappy does not work past 30 and certainly not in H's 50s. It is a cry for help more than anything.* *

Sophie Chandauka managed to say no to H. If the whole of BP cannot stand up to H for the next five years, then I am sorry, you lot may as well run the referendum for a Republic and say hello to President Farage/Badenoch/Other.

11add1 · Yesterday 17:51

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 17:41

And ….implying his father and queen Elizabeth might have been together if not for Mountbatten is a particularly low flight of fancy!!! , we know Elizabeth saw and fell for Phillip at age 14 ….so what is he implying about his father then!!!

Yep, full of shit.

He is so full of himself and sounds incredibly dim.

Prince Charles was insisting that he wanted to do so. It is hard to see why, given his feelings for Diana. Also, an ex is never expected to act as chief mourner at their former spouse’s funeral. But he was adamant.
He praised Diana as having the most amazing people's skills but clearly CS doesn't have people's skills. Perhaps KC wanted to walk behind Diana's coffin to pay his respect and support his sons. CS sounds as dim and HaM. Awful to put these recollections out there for Kc's poor innocent grandchildren to have to deal with. Selfish man. And boring. It's boring, vengeful, unsubstantiated diatribe. Hope he'll fall out with lots of people over it. Wonder if his lates wife is best pleased to be drawing this sort of attention. Silly man.