Ham pr disasters 38! Ailing king? Or heartless son?

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Continuing the criticism…still interested, still not bored….

But why is it up to the Foreign Office or Charles to tell the Ugandans what is and isn't an obstacle to them competing, smilesy?

Because, as quoted by me above, the Ugandans specifically and publicly said that they were withdrawing from the IG because they didn't want to offend Charles. Charles isn't telling them whether or not they should get involved in the IG. Just that they shouldn't do so out of any misplaced belief that he would be offended. It seems an entirely appropriate action for him to take, as Head of State and Head of the Commonwealth.

As someone said above, not everything is about Harry.

I am a huge critic of H and M so I am certainly not pushing a Sussex narrative however I stand by my original assertion that I think KC was wrong to get involved . No matter how good his intentions were , H will see it as some sort of victory.

No the foreign office or some diplomat should have managed this.

But Charles was mentioned personally. So having his representative, rather than 'some diplomat' contact the Ugandans was the appropriate channel of communication.

Hello you lovely “service is universal” crowd of ladies.
Today I graciously had an early engagement at my local hospital where I greeted staff and volunteers, talked about what they did , let them show me a procedure and made a quiet donation to the ‘Friends of’ charity.
AKA (I went to hospital bought three paperbacks from the ‘shop’ put the change from a fiver in their tin and had an internal scan. Joy).

I cannot keep up with this thread. I’m only on page 20.
So in order to show my devolution since it’s moving at 20 pages per day I have changed tomorrows Ocado order so I don’t have to spend too much time cooking.
DH will be having ‘bags of flavour Thai chicken’ tomorrow with rice then a yoghurt - see! See my commitment!
Im reading this whilst watching ‘Last night of the Proms’ - I’m so behind on life due to my engagements!
When do I announce this weeks??
Anyway, I laughed very much at the utter ridiculousness of the 🇬🇧❤️ montage of shite. I’m sweating myself silly today, I feel like my underboobs are about to explode -it’s been very warm in Yorkshire today! The thought of a fire and a puffy jacket made me laugh -and where did those muddy puddles come from?
God they are utterly insufferable,

Sorry to everyone who I usually like/heart/clap your posts -I haven’t had time to press the clicky thing as I’m too busy playing catch up. What with this and the Christmas thread my arse is welded to the sofa!

So what though?

Surely international diplomacy takes precedence over whether or not dim Harry sees something as a 'victory'? What does that really matter in the scheme of things?

And really, Charles was involved the moment the Ugandan president's son publicly mentioned him as the reason for Uganda's withdrawal. So it's not like he chose to get involved. He was already involved, and his only choice was how to deal with it.

Yes, I think those are fair points.

H sees slights where there are none , he will see victories where they aren't. It has been so and it will be so. He is , I think , getting less credible with every outburst.

He needed 2 A levels to get into Sandhurst which is how Eton got embroiled in the cheating scandal with his Art teacher instructed to do his written work to get him to pass Art. Harry had already quit his 3rd A level (history of art) after flunking out at AS level.

These days you need 72 UCAS points for Sandhurst (Minimum a B and a C) - Harry only had 64 (with cheating) and wouldn't be eligible

I don't think the RF have prenups as they are not legally binding under English Law.

My suspicion is that they are not spectacularly good looking and that's why she 's keeping their faces hidden

My suspicion is that they look far more like grandad Markle and bear almost no resemblance to granny Diana.

And will he be wearing a crown? Like she was wearing a plastic princess tiara on hers

What are you talking about?

Yes, that's probably why.

I don't consider Harry a great father at all. I'm sure he believes he is because he tells himself he is. A good father doesn't merch out his kids on SM for them to be ridiculed

Agreed.
I suspect he's better at being the fun uncle that pops in, plays a few games then goes when there's bedtime/homework/something that isn't just playing.

I've often looked at the photos with them and the children and there isn't that casual loving feeling between them. I suspect people are going to talk about being posed, or making sure that their faces aren't shown, but if they naturally love being with him, it's not difficult.
I mean, my ds, he's 19yo, and has a hobby which involves all ages. He can't really understand it, but a lot of the young children think he's amazing. He doesn't really do much with them, but if he sits down, he often gets two or three come to sit next to him. They'll lean on him and put their arm round him, or stand next to him with arms round his neck. If he's not sitting down, they'll go to him to open their crisps or show him their reading book etc. I've seen loads of photos from behind of him and various little ones which look far more loving than any I've seen.

Getting involved by contacting Ugandan leader regarding Ingriftus

He should be more like Peter andre and love his kids

I think maybe PH might have had a private telling off about the whole fiasco.

I think the pp is right that KC will be trying to draw a clear demark(le)ation around an issue his name has been dragged into.

I’ve been busy and might not be back in time!
just in case ……https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5578468-ham-pr-disasters-39-the-uganda-dividediplomatic-necessity-vs-needless-pandering?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

I agree.

Plus - he didn't turn up for the launch of the "Spirit of Invictus" train because they wouldn't close Euston station for his "security".

Seriously? 🙄

I wonder if the muddy puddles were “manufactured”🤔

🪣 the thought occured to me