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Ham pr disasters 38! Ailing king? Or heartless son?

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jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 23:19

Continuing the criticism…still interested, still not bored….

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jumpintheline · Yesterday 15:28

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 15:20

I think H is probably a great dad. Meghan could conceivably allow him to have the children. She looks uncomfortable around the children and the time for merching them has probably gone. My suspicion is that they are not spectacularly good looking and that's why she 's keeping their faces hidden. Her unpopularity in the US and the indifference to the monarchy suggest their value is not what does may have thought it would be.

I agree he does appear to be a very loving dad.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 15:29

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 15:23

I expect Sir Clive said something to the effect that the King didn't need Uganda boycotting things on his behalf, maybe even that the Sussexes are really too insignificant for the monarchy to worry about. In diplomatic language of course.

Smooths everything over. Charles looks like the bigger person and diplomat. The Sussexes are outmanouvered if they want to use the whole thing to attack the King.

I agree. It's a power move. I imagine it has little to do with Invictus itself, which is a pretty minor affair in the scheme of things, but rather with clearing up a potential misunderstanding between two Commonwealth nations. As head of the Commonwealth, that is well within Charles' remit.

AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 15:31

Uganda back in the Invictus Games following intervention by Sir Clive Alderton. Tacit support for Invictus and by extension H by KCIII.

I see it more as 'don't drag the King into this. Invictus is nothing to do with him'.

I can't see Invictus continuing beyond next year anyway, at least in its present form. The cost and the hype is out of proportion to the numbers benefiting, and H&M bring the wrong sort of publicity.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 15:31

jumpintheline · Yesterday 15:27

I think KC would.

It doesn't seem that Wills will thaw. Shame really. I know Harry has been the crappiest brother. But they were so close. They are the only two people who know what its like to be the offspring off Charles and Di and everything that entailed.

King Charlie boy I reckon would have a contrite PH back on his knee with Hamlets.

No, I'm challenging the claim that Harry will have a role.
He won't.

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 15:31

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 14:58

I think KC is making a mistake . All he has done is show HAM that if they have a tantrum , he will sort it out .

He has done that, but it is subsidiary to him being seen to support Comminwealth country and an initiative which he helped launch.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 15:32

IcedPurple · Yesterday 15:29

I agree. It's a power move. I imagine it has little to do with Invictus itself, which is a pretty minor affair in the scheme of things, but rather with clearing up a potential misunderstanding between two Commonwealth nations. As head of the Commonwealth, that is well within Charles' remit.

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Could also get KC out of having to attend Ingriftus next year which H is desperate to get. He now can't accuse KC of totally scuppering Ingriftus (he will of course but optics don't look as bad)

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 15:32

jumpintheline · Yesterday 15:28

I agree he does appear to be a very loving dad.

Based on what?

heatdome · Yesterday 15:33

I agree the billionaires who want hot women will go younger and probably want someone more in the mould of Melania Trump. She’d have to go significantly older I would have thought.

London is supposedly the divorce capital of the world for HNW types, which I recalled when thinking of reasons for their return. But would HAM be considered rich enough?

AustenitesUnite · Yesterday 15:33

It's H's 42nd birthday tomorrow. Do we think M is going to release another video to mark this special event?

IcedPurple · Yesterday 15:33

Starryfifty · Yesterday 15:32

Could also get KC out of having to attend Ingriftus next year which H is desperate to get. He now can't accuse KC of totally scuppering Ingriftus (he will of course but optics don't look as bad)

I don't think Charles attending the IG was ever in serious consideration. H will be lucky if there is any royal presence at all.

smilesy · Yesterday 15:34

My2cents1975 · Yesterday 15:24

KC3 has intervened openly in Uganda. There were rumours that calls from BP smoothed over the African Parks situation in Chad as well as the Australia Invictus withdrawal.

KC3 is Exhibit A on why H seemingly fails to learn. H's lived experience is that enough tantruming gets him what he wants and King Pa will rush in to save H from the consequences of his actions.

IMHO, in one move KC3 failed his staff, the veterans who participate in Invictus, and Uganda. Very badly done. And I will say it again, one day H will cause a diplomatic nightmare too big for KC3 the enabler to sweep under the rug. And on that day, I will have zero sympathy for KC3 the enabler.

Tbf, diplomacy is usually more important than individuals. We can all see that it is more important that countries get along and that the Ugandan veterans were not disadvantaged by their leaders reaction to the Sussexes and it was also not worth causing diplomatic upset with Chad. It would have been at the advice of the Foreign Office that Charles intervened and it would be in spite of, not because of Harry. So I think it’s a bit of a leap to say that this makes Charles an enabler

Lifestooshort71 · Yesterday 15:37

I'm with those of you who believe he'll settle in the UK and MM will fly back and forth 'for work' and her return trips will get longer and longer apart until he's well ensconced. It will not be a brutal separation but a slow withdrawal. The children? They will stay with Harry unofficially.

fridaynightzzz · Yesterday 15:38

I don’t think you can say he is entirely a good dad when he is allowing his children to be monetised (even the back of their heads) and if he doesn’t sort out this big chip on his shoulder about being Royal and the entitlement - heavens knows what he’s teaching them. He needs to grow up to be a good parent.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 15:39

heatdome · Yesterday 15:33

I agree the billionaires who want hot women will go younger and probably want someone more in the mould of Melania Trump. She’d have to go significantly older I would have thought.

London is supposedly the divorce capital of the world for HNW types, which I recalled when thinking of reasons for their return. But would HAM be considered rich enough?

I think she'll have to look in the Rupert Murdoch category!

Plenty have before her...

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 15:40

fridaynightzzz · Yesterday 15:38

I don’t think you can say he is entirely a good dad when he is allowing his children to be monetised (even the back of their heads) and if he doesn’t sort out this big chip on his shoulder about being Royal and the entitlement - heavens knows what he’s teaching them. He needs to grow up to be a good parent.

True, he's often spoken about privacy and keeping your children off social media, so it's a bit hypocritical.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 15:40

fridaynightzzz · Yesterday 15:38

I don’t think you can say he is entirely a good dad when he is allowing his children to be monetised (even the back of their heads) and if he doesn’t sort out this big chip on his shoulder about being Royal and the entitlement - heavens knows what he’s teaching them. He needs to grow up to be a good parent.

I agree. Meghan is the one taking and uploading the videos, but Harry is clearly allowing it.

Also, the way he talks about the children is odd, and suggests to me that he doesn't actually spend much time with them. I suspect he's good at the 'fun' stuff but quickly gets bored with the more mundane aspects of being a father. All in keeping with his adolescent mindset.

AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 15:41

Could also get KC out of having to attend Ingriftus next year which H is desperate to get.

No way will the King attend Invictus. Him appearing next to H at any kind of public function would only give credence to H's claims to be an official public person.

H might be a fun dad, but does he teach his children manners and responsibility? Does he set an example? Does he have a set of values and principles which he tries to pass on to his children? Does he tell them no when necessary? That's being a good dad.

My2cents1975 · Yesterday 15:41

It is remarkable that a Head of State has intervened in a charity issue that has a private citizen as its patron.

A private citizen who quite happily wrote about almost blowing said head of state to smithereens in his book "Spare". Some would call that treason. And yet private citizen has military charities that seem to support private citizen's PR profile more than private citizen supports them/raises money for them.

Buckingham Palace issued a letter clarifying that the private citizen was indeed a private citizen. And that should have been that.

Rewarding private citizen by shilling for Invictus when Invictus is essentially a giant red flag is a wholly unforced error and creates a bad precedent. When a Lownie 2.0 takes on the Invictus games chicanery, BP will now be involved. Uganda can say they wanted out but BP brought them back in.

IMHO, very badly done.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 15:42

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 15:39

I think she'll have to look in the Rupert Murdoch category!

Plenty have before her...

The super rich tend to guard their privacy very highly. The likes of Murdoch would never go near someone as indiscreet and disloyal as Meghan.

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 15:43

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 15:40

True, he's often spoken about privacy and keeping your children off social media, so it's a bit hypocritical.

Lots is hypocritical - ecowarriors flying in private jets, living publicly having said you wanted to be private, falling out with people while preaching about kindness.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 15:44

My2cents1975 · Yesterday 15:41

It is remarkable that a Head of State has intervened in a charity issue that has a private citizen as its patron.

A private citizen who quite happily wrote about almost blowing said head of state to smithereens in his book "Spare". Some would call that treason. And yet private citizen has military charities that seem to support private citizen's PR profile more than private citizen supports them/raises money for them.

Buckingham Palace issued a letter clarifying that the private citizen was indeed a private citizen. And that should have been that.

Rewarding private citizen by shilling for Invictus when Invictus is essentially a giant red flag is a wholly unforced error and creates a bad precedent. When a Lownie 2.0 takes on the Invictus games chicanery, BP will now be involved. Uganda can say they wanted out but BP brought them back in.

IMHO, very badly done.

It is remarkable that a Head of State has intervened in a charity issue that has a private citizen as its patron.

But Charles, as Head of State, was publicly referenced in connection with Uganda's withdrawal. Therefore, it IS his responsibility to clarify matters.

As I said above, I really don't think it's about Invictus or Harry in themselves. Rather about clearing up a public diplomatic misunderstanding.

LaMarschallin · Yesterday 15:45

Loving his children is the absolute least he can do.
His description of himself as a "full-time dad" just describes practically all fathers.
I've never stopped being a mother to my children even though they have children of their own now.
If he means he's a "SAHD" then maybe he should stay at home a bit more.
And does he do all the chores of looking after and bringing up children? I doubt it. I should imagine there is a nanny, someone to clean, someone to cook, sounds like bodyguards are doing the school run...
What does Harry do? Juggle?
It's a bit of an insult to genuine SAHPs.

Membersphonly · Yesterday 15:45

My2cents1975 · Yesterday 15:41

It is remarkable that a Head of State has intervened in a charity issue that has a private citizen as its patron.

A private citizen who quite happily wrote about almost blowing said head of state to smithereens in his book "Spare". Some would call that treason. And yet private citizen has military charities that seem to support private citizen's PR profile more than private citizen supports them/raises money for them.

Buckingham Palace issued a letter clarifying that the private citizen was indeed a private citizen. And that should have been that.

Rewarding private citizen by shilling for Invictus when Invictus is essentially a giant red flag is a wholly unforced error and creates a bad precedent. When a Lownie 2.0 takes on the Invictus games chicanery, BP will now be involved. Uganda can say they wanted out but BP brought them back in.

IMHO, very badly done.

Huge, huge mistake for KC to get involved.
😬

Membersphonly · Yesterday 15:48

My2cents1975 · Yesterday 15:41

It is remarkable that a Head of State has intervened in a charity issue that has a private citizen as its patron.

A private citizen who quite happily wrote about almost blowing said head of state to smithereens in his book "Spare". Some would call that treason. And yet private citizen has military charities that seem to support private citizen's PR profile more than private citizen supports them/raises money for them.

Buckingham Palace issued a letter clarifying that the private citizen was indeed a private citizen. And that should have been that.

Rewarding private citizen by shilling for Invictus when Invictus is essentially a giant red flag is a wholly unforced error and creates a bad precedent. When a Lownie 2.0 takes on the Invictus games chicanery, BP will now be involved. Uganda can say they wanted out but BP brought them back in.

IMHO, very badly done.

This in a nutshell but much better expressed.

Time for the 🍿to come out.

Very disappointed in this royal intervention.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 15:49

LaMarschallin · Yesterday 15:45

Loving his children is the absolute least he can do.
His description of himself as a "full-time dad" just describes practically all fathers.
I've never stopped being a mother to my children even though they have children of their own now.
If he means he's a "SAHD" then maybe he should stay at home a bit more.
And does he do all the chores of looking after and bringing up children? I doubt it. I should imagine there is a nanny, someone to clean, someone to cook, sounds like bodyguards are doing the school run...
What does Harry do? Juggle?
It's a bit of an insult to genuine SAHPs.

Also, all those trips abroad? He's hardly been around all the time.

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